NEO HDV + Canon XH-A1, won't split? at DVinfo.net

Kris Bird · May 13th, 2007, 03:53 PM

Hi, simple post ..

Capturing from XH-A1, variety of 25F and 50i footage.

Neo HDV (downloaded today) HDLink isn't splitting scenes! I've tried it straight to cineform, to cineform+m2t, and to m2t alone ... no splitting :(

Is anyone else doing this successfully?

Salah Baker · May 13th, 2007, 04:32 PM

File a ticket and ask for Tim Bucklin

Kris Bird · May 13th, 2007, 04:46 PM

Already filed a ticket, so I appended a note for it to be assigned to that person...

Have you had similar problems ..?

I have a promo that needs edited/graded to be finished a little over a week from now, our editor is holding off starting until we know whether we can go the cineform route .. (as opposed to hdv, which sucks for 150+ cuts in 3mins)... Hopefully I'll get some resolution asap :)

Otherwise, cineform looks like a dream to work with.

Kris

Salah Baker · May 13th, 2007, 04:51 PM

Tim works on HDLink .
He had a reslolution for me in less than 24

Salah Baker · May 13th, 2007, 05:16 PM

"Have you had similar problems ..?"
it may be my issue that broke yours...lol

Kris Bird · May 13th, 2007, 05:20 PM

It happens :) Have an older version handy ? ;)

David Taylor · May 13th, 2007, 05:52 PM

Kris, while you're waiting for Tim's response, I have a couple things to suggest:
1) Try a utility called "HDVSplit" to split your HDV files. You can then use HDLink to convert the split files to CineForm Intermediate. More on HDVSplit in this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...light=hdvsplit.

2) You can download the previous version of Connect HD on the CineForm downloads page by clicking on the "Update" button: http://www.cineform.com/products/Dow.../Downloads.htm. Put in a random number for the serial number and it'll return a link to you. We didn't do any update to the splitting algorithm when we moved up to NEO, but some people seem to report different behavior for some reason.

Kris Bird · May 13th, 2007, 06:38 PM

Cheers David!

HDVSplit splits them no problem, will do that and convert to cineform for the time being!

Tried uninstalling my version of NEO and installing older Connect HD versions-- seemed to behave in the same way, no splits!

David Taylor · May 13th, 2007, 07:03 PM

All right - at least you have a workaround in the mean time....

Kris Bird · May 16th, 2007, 09:55 AM

Hi, just a follow-up .... I've been capturing another project with HDVSplit (to M2T) and then converting the M2Ts into Cineform Avis with HDLink ... HDLink is regularly freezing up (the window stops responding), and I have to kill the process. I know that HDVSplit reported 2 dropped frames in the 4 hours of video--- In what circumstances would HDLink it freeze up?

So at the moment I'm in a position where I can't have faith in my folder of cineform footage as I've had to keep "resuming" the batch compression, and I know for a fact that one ~20minute take has been truncated to ~3mins long ...

If only HDLink would capture and scene split direct from the A1 =\ Is *anyone* doing this successfully? If so, what version of HDLink/cineform?

May 13th, 2007, 03:53 PM	#1
Kris Bird Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 173	NEO HDV + Canon XH-A1, won't split? Hi, simple post .. Capturing from XH-A1, variety of 25F and 50i footage. Neo HDV (downloaded today) HDLink isn't splitting scenes! I've tried it straight to cineform, to cineform+m2t, and to m2t alone ... no splitting :( Is anyone else doing this successfully?

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May 13th, 2007, 04:32 PM	#2
Salah Baker Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Patterson La. Posts: 207	File a ticket and ask for Tim Bucklin

May 13th, 2007, 04:46 PM	#3
Kris Bird Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 173	Already filed a ticket, so I appended a note for it to be assigned to that person... Have you had similar problems ..? I have a promo that needs edited/graded to be finished a little over a week from now, our editor is holding off starting until we know whether we can go the cineform route .. (as opposed to hdv, which sucks for 150+ cuts in 3mins)... Hopefully I'll get some resolution asap :) Otherwise, cineform looks like a dream to work with. Kris

May 13th, 2007, 04:51 PM	#4
Salah Baker Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Patterson La. Posts: 207	Tim works on HDLink . He had a reslolution for me in less than 24

May 13th, 2007, 05:16 PM	#5
Salah Baker Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Patterson La. Posts: 207	"Have you had similar problems ..?" it may be my issue that broke yours...lol

May 13th, 2007, 05:20 PM	#6
Kris Bird Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 173	It happens :) Have an older version handy ? ;)

May 13th, 2007, 05:52 PM	#7
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	Kris, while you're waiting for Tim's response, I have a couple things to suggest: 1) Try a utility called "HDVSplit" to split your HDV files. You can then use HDLink to convert the split files to CineForm Intermediate. More on HDVSplit in this thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...light=hdvsplit. 2) You can download the previous version of Connect HD on the CineForm downloads page by clicking on the "Update" button: http://www.cineform.com/products/Dow.../Downloads.htm. Put in a random number for the serial number and it'll return a link to you. We didn't do any update to the splitting algorithm when we moved up to NEO, but some people seem to report different behavior for some reason.

May 13th, 2007, 06:38 PM	#8
Kris Bird Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 173	Cheers David! HDVSplit splits them no problem, will do that and convert to cineform for the time being! Tried uninstalling my version of NEO and installing older Connect HD versions-- seemed to behave in the same way, no splits!

May 13th, 2007, 07:03 PM	#9
David Taylor Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Solana Beach, CA Posts: 853	All right - at least you have a workaround in the mean time....

May 16th, 2007, 09:55 AM	#10
Kris Bird Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 173	Hi, just a follow-up .... I've been capturing another project with HDVSplit (to M2T) and then converting the M2Ts into Cineform Avis with HDLink ... HDLink is regularly freezing up (the window stops responding), and I have to kill the process. I know that HDVSplit reported 2 dropped frames in the 4 hours of video--- In what circumstances would HDLink it freeze up? So at the moment I'm in a position where I can't have faith in my folder of cineform footage as I've had to keep "resuming" the batch compression, and I know for a fact that one ~20minute take has been truncated to ~3mins long ... If only HDLink would capture and scene split direct from the A1 =\ Is anyone doing this successfully? If so, what version of HDLink/cineform?