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Mike Schell June 5th, 2008 10:26 PM

nanoFlash Details
 
We should have the 3-D views of nanoFlash and the preliminary spec sheet on our website next week. But, I wanted to give you some of the major highlights for your review and comment, as we are going into PCB layout and cabinet design next week.

nanoFlash Highlights
1) Build on Flash XDR technology
2) Two Compact Flash Slots, which can be configured in RAID1 for redundant recording
3) Eight Channels of 16/24-bit Embedded Audio, embedded time-code
4) Same Sony MPEG2 CODEC, same 4:2:2 profiles: 50/100 Mbps Long-GOP, 100/160 MBps I-Frame Only
5) 24p Pulldown removal, image flip
6) LTC Input (BNC) - jam sync to audio master TC generator
7) Trigger, Tally, Remote start switch control via 5-pin lockable Hirose connector
8) RS-232/RS-485 switchable 9-pin D-Sub connector
9) +5V power output tap to power HDMI <-> HD-SDI converters (nanoConnect, nanoView)
10) Detachable Plate for Camcorder Battery Mount
11) Reduced Size: 4.2 x 3.7 x 1.4" or less than 20% the overall volume of Flash XDR
12) 10W power, 6.5 to 20V DC input, via 6-pin lockable Hirose connector
13) MSRP = US $3495, Delivery = 1-Sep-08

The target applications for nanoFlash are HD-SDI cameras with embedded audio and time code as well as POV cameras which utilize a separate audio capture device.

We do plan to publish the complete remote control / status command protocol for nanoFlash and Flash XDR, so users can create their own PC based applications, such as video assist. You will be able to control multiple boxes by creating an RS-485 (twisted pair) network. Additionally, you may be able to use wireless USB to RS-232 devices, but none have been tested.

So compared to Flash XDR, you have a much smaller package and lower cost, but give up analog audio I/O, two Compact Flash slots and ultimately the ability to do uncompressed.

George Kroonder June 6th, 2008 06:04 AM

Hello Mike,

Does it come with a hot/cold shoe mount as standard? 10W should be easy to power from the camera.

Would be great for mounting on the EX3 instead of the PHU-60K harddisk.

George/

Stefan Sargent June 6th, 2008 06:28 AM

Hi Mike

"9) +5V power output tap to power HDMI <-> HD-SDI converters (nanoConnect, nanoView)"

In April you were saying that the nanoFlash had HDMI in. Here's a quote from you: "nanoFlash will have HDMI and HD-SDI inputs".

Have you now dropped the HDMI in? If so - that's a great shame. Tell me that point 9) is not correct and that HDMI conversion is built in. Pleeease ...

S
http://stefansargent.com

Mike Schell June 6th, 2008 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Kroonder (Post 889038)
Hello Mike,

Does it come with a hot/cold shoe mount as standard? 10W should be easy to power from the camera.

Would be great for mounting on the EX3 instead of the PHU-60K harddisk.

George/

Hi George-
Great idea, let me do more research on this shoe mount, it certainly seems possible. Besides, you'll get a significant improvement in video quality over a hard-disk, which merely copies the native video quality from the camera.

George Kroonder June 7th, 2008 08:27 AM

After calming down a bit I realize that 10W is way too much to draw from the Sony EX cameras... But it would still be nice to fit it easily on the cam.

George/

Mike Schell June 7th, 2008 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Kroonder (Post 889552)
After calming down a bit I realize that 10W is way too much to draw from the Sony EX cameras... But it would still be nice to fit it easily on the cam.

George/

Hi George-
We'll have a battery mount option similar to the PHU-60K harddrive. Interestingly, we'll actually have more capacity with two 32GB CF cards, than the 60GB hard-drive option.

Mike Schell June 7th, 2008 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan Sargent (Post 889040)
Hi Mike

"9) +5V power output tap to power HDMI <-> HD-SDI converters (nanoConnect, nanoView)"

In April you were saying that the nanoFlash had HDMI in. Here's a quote from you: "nanoFlash will have HDMI and HD-SDI inputs".

Have you now dropped the HDMI in? If so - that's a great shame. Tell me that point 9) is not correct and that HDMI conversion is built in. Pleeease ...

S
http://stefansargent.com

Hi Stefan-
We have an ultra-small (2"x2") version of our nanoConnect (HDMI to HD-SDI) converter coming soon. We are working on a very clean mounting system to the nanoFlash box, so they can be used as one unit. We have heard a number of requests for both HDMI to HD-SDI (for capture) as well as (HD-SDI to HDMI) for playabck. We could not accommodate both directions, so we are working out a mounting system for both our nanoConnect and nanoView boxes. I think you will be pleased with the end result.

We want to support HDMI cameras and will do our best to facilitate this application. I don't think the end result of nanoFlash + nanoConnect will be much bigger than if we had added the HDMI circuit inside the nanoFlash box.

Stefan Sargent June 7th, 2008 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Schell (Post 889582)
Hi Stefan-
We have an ultra-small (2"x2") version of our nanoConnect (HDMI to HD-SDI) converter coming soon.

Thanks Mike,

So the original spec of 4 x 4 x 2 is now 4.2 x 3.7 x 1.4 PLUS a 2 x 2 x ? box somehow attached to the other box - oh dear ... is that right?

I have your NAB press release framed on my wall. There, I've taken it off the wall. Another of my hopes and dreams crushed.

Will the new, just announced, mini-nanoConnect and the nanoFlash be released simultaneously? My framed copy of your PR release (now in the bin) says Q4 08.

Still a great step forward - can't wait. Needed it yesterday.

George Kroonder June 7th, 2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Schell (Post 889578)
We'll have a battery mount option similar to the PHU-60K harddrive.

That sounds good Mike.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Schell (Post 889578)
Interestingly, we'll actually have more capacity with two 32GB CF cards, than the 60GB hard-drive option.

Well, a bit "apples and oranges" but capacity (however you define that) is just part of the equation.

I like that it will be a small dedicated device with lower cost CF cards bringing enhanced recording to platforms like the XDCAM EX.

However, this is definately an exciting year with a lot of planned releases for the next few months...

George/

Mike Schell June 9th, 2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan Sargent (Post 889613)
Thanks Mike,

So the original spec of 4 x 4 x 2 is now 4.2 x 3.7 x 1.4 PLUS a 2 x 2 x ? box somehow attached to the other box - oh dear ... is that right?

I have your NAB press release framed on my wall. There, I've taken it off the wall. Another of my hopes and dreams crushed.

Will the new, just announced, mini-nanoConnect and the nanoFlash be released simultaneously? My framed copy of your PR release (now in the bin) says Q4 08.

Still a great step forward - can't wait. Needed it yesterday.

Hi Stefan-
Yes, your understanding of the dimensions is correct. We didn't get the HDMI inside the nanoFlash, as we had hoped, but we moved up the release date by several months. Yes, the nanoFlash and the new mini-nanoConnect will be released simultaneously. I think it will be an very acceptable combination.

Stefan Sargent June 10th, 2008 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Schell (Post 890554)
Yes, the nanoFlash and the new mini-nanoConnect will be released simultaneously.

Go on - give us a rough date - Aug, Sept, Oct?
thanks S

Tim Polster June 10th, 2008 08:45 AM

Stephan, they did, September.

Mike Schell June 13th, 2008 09:31 PM

nanoFlash Front View
 
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Here's a front view of nanoFlash, I will post the press release shortly.

Piotr Wozniacki June 14th, 2008 02:16 AM

Thanks Mike for that.

There is a controversy in another thread about whether XDR or Nano FLASH will be able to start/stop recording with the TC increment, embedded in the EX1's SDI; somebody from Sony says they won't - please clarify

Mike Schell June 14th, 2008 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piotr Wozniacki (Post 892951)
Thanks Mike for that.

There is a controversy in another thread about whether XDR or Nano FLASH will be able to start/stop recording with the TC increment, embedded in the EX1's SDI; somebody from Sony says they won't - please clarify

Hi Piotr-
I made a post in the EX1 forum, but just for clarification, every camera I have tested will output an invalid timecode (all 1's) when operating in "live mode". Once the record button is pressed, the time code becomes valid and starts incrementing. That's our trigger to start recording.

We'll have an EX1 early next week and test this "feature" as well as overcrank/undercrank recording question.


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