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Mark Job February 23rd, 2010 10:59 AM

Preliminary XDR Jam-Sync Tests Results with Latest Beta Firmware
 
Hi Dan, Mike, Tommy and Fellow XDR Users:

Here are the preliminary Jam-Sync 24 F test results for the latest beta firmware release (Version 1.5.25) on the Flash XDR:

1. 24 F Jam-Sync Test Results{ Both Camera & XDR running on fully charged battery power to duplicate normal shooting conditions}

A) Camera Used [ Canon XLH1 @ 24 F 23.98 fps over 59.94 Hz ]
B) Time Duration Measured: 2 Hrs

Time begins to drift after exactly 11 minutes at 1 second intervals every 10 minutes up to a maximum measured time drift of 5 seconds. This is much less of a general time drift. I don't know how you folks can close this gap, but you are slowly getting closer and closer with each firmware update.
* The time drift direction is the XDR slows down by an eventual 5 seconds max to measure so far. I have run this 2 hour time interval test twice now. I will now run a 3 hour Jam-Sync test to more closely approximate the shooting of a live concert event, where such use of Jam-Sync would be most commonly justified.
** I have not yet tested regular 59.94 i Jam-Sync this time around yet, but will do so. So far, I have not found there to be any perceivable time drift between clocks at the faster fps video rate on earlier firmware releases.

Mark Job February 24th, 2010 10:42 AM

Results of 3 Hour 24 F Jam-Sync Test
 
Hi Dan, Mike, Tommy and Fellow XDR Users:

The results of the 3 hour test were progressive in drift as well, with an increase at the end of the 3rd hour to a grand total time discrepancy of 14 seconds slower than the camera clock.

*59.94 Hz Jam0-Sync Results coming up soon.

Respectfully,

Dan Keaton February 24th, 2010 02:48 PM

Dear Mark,

Thank you for your detailed tests.

Was the XL H1 powered up, and connected to the Flash XDR via HD-SDI the entire time?

Mark Job February 24th, 2010 05:26 PM

Hi Dan:
Yes indeed. I had the HD-SDI cable connected the entire time.

Respectfully,

John Mitchell February 25th, 2010 01:38 AM

Hi Mark -

It would be interesting to run the same test but record out via firewire to a PC at the same time and compare the actual recorded video and audio.

I've noticed that my audio lags two frames behind my internally recorded audio with the HM700 but I haven't done any long form stuff like concerts with it.


cheers John

Mark Job February 25th, 2010 01:04 PM

Firewire Output ?
 
Hi John:
I'm not sure I follow you regarding the firewire output in the Jam-Sync Test ? Could you elaborate?

Sincerely,

Mark

John Mitchell March 5th, 2010 08:56 AM

Mark - sorry for the late reply. I assumed for your jam sync test you were running video via HD-SDI and simply observing the TC on both the XDR and the camera.

I was merely interested to see if you recorded footage at the same time - so recording on the XDR and a laptop/PC at the same time and observing the recorded TC on both streams when the actual video streams were matched in an NLE.

I'm just wondering if TC drifts does that mean your video would get out of sync as well?

Mark Job March 16th, 2010 08:19 AM

24 F Jam-Sync Repair with Next XDR Firmware Release
 
Hi Mike, Tommy, and Dan:
Will the next firmware release (Or Public Beta ?) for the XDR have a fix for the 24 F jam-Sync in it ? Please be advised that 1080i 59.94 Hz Jam-Sync works perfectly. Also, do you have a fix for .MPG playback in realtime in the XDR ?

Respectfully,

Dan Keaton March 16th, 2010 09:35 AM

Dear Mark,

I will check on both of your questions.

Tommy Schell March 16th, 2010 10:48 AM

Hi Mark,

Timecode is a little slippery in pulldown removal mode, going from a 1080i60 timecode source to 1080p24.
We will have to examine jam sync behavior more closely in this mode, unfortunately we probably won't be able to address in the pending beta release.
MPG playback should be improved in this release. However we had to disable the "pause" feature in MPG, our codec doesn't like to pause with MPG's compressed audio.
Pause will still work in MXF and Quicktime.
File skipping will still work in MPG.

Tommy

Mark Job March 17th, 2010 07:29 AM

Playback Pixelation & Smoothing Issue
 
Hi Dan & Tommy:
OK. Thank you for this info. Have you folks been able to resolve the strange playback breakup and blurring issue with .MOV or .MXF files for the latest beta ? The audio also popped and screeched at me. I think this one scares me the most. Please Advise.

Dan Keaton March 17th, 2010 07:57 AM

Dear Mark,

Yes, there were issues on playback, in the nanoFlash or Flash XDR of ".MOV" files in our first Public Beta, 1.5.31 (nanoFlash) and 1.15.25 (Flash XDR).

These have been fixed.

Yes, the audio problems have been fixed.

Stay tuned.

Mark Job March 17th, 2010 08:28 AM

Excellent News :-)
 
Hi Dan & Tommy:
This is excellent news ! Thank You :-)


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