nanoFlash & MovieSlate

Dan Keaton · November 3rd, 2010, 01:36 PM

Dear Lance and Bob,

I will see what I can do.

Dan Keaton · November 3rd, 2010, 06:25 PM

Dear Friends,

I am trying to get in touch with Imagine Products.

Bob Griffiths · November 3rd, 2010, 06:40 PM

Phone and text contact here:
https://www.imagineproducts.com/inde...age=contact_us

I think the head honcho there is a guy named Dan. Nice guy. I sent him an email today to ask if he had ever considered concatenating files... so your calling him about this might ring a bell. Calling during the day is best. They are a small outfit. They take a bit to call back and answer emails but they are very good at improving their product. You should get a good reception.

Thanks, Dan! You da best!

Dan Keaton · November 3rd, 2010, 06:59 PM

Dear Bob,

Dan, of Imagine Products, sent me an email tonight.

I gave him all of my phone numbers.

Bob Griffiths · November 3rd, 2010, 07:03 PM

Good Luck!

Luben Izov · November 3rd, 2010, 09:55 PM

Thank you Bob for that find and Thank you Dan for going after it!
Cheers

Dan Keaton · November 4th, 2010, 12:21 PM

Dear Friends,

Dan Montgomery of Imagine Products, Inc. and I had a nice, fruitful conversation this morning.

I also discussed this with our engineers yesterday.

A proper Quicktime File (".MOV") concatenation is rather complex.

Without going into all of the details, here is an approximation of what has to be performed.

For the first file, the header info has to be changed, subsequent headers have to be deleted.

For each file, the file trailer has to be moved and then changed except for maybe the first file.
To state this differently, the indexes in the file trailer have to be recreated,

A lot of tedious work has to be performed, as there is an index to every frame in the file and, of course, the index has to be accurate.

While it would be possible to perform a file copy and file concatenation at one time, I do not think this is prudent. If a problem with the file concatenation ever occured, and was found later, then the original files may not still be available.

Thus, a two-step process is the best choice, in my opinion, at least until the second step, file concatenation is proven to be rock solid.

ShotPut Pro is excellent software for the file copy process, and it is widely respected and recommended.

Thus, I feel that it is best to use ShotPut Pro for the first step.

We are working with Imagine Products.

Bob Griffiths · November 4th, 2010, 04:11 PM

Dan, you're still da best! Here's hoping for a simple, easy, effective solution!

Thanks!

Dave Chalmers · November 5th, 2010, 01:18 AM

You guys should check out Offloader from VideoToolshed.

VideoToolShed - Offloader

It already does file verification to two destinations and it's currently donationware.
It can also do transcoding and timecode insertion on Canon 5D files which is pretty handy.

Regards

Dave

November 3rd, 2010, 01:36 PM	#16
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Lance and Bob, I will see what I can do. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

November 3rd, 2010, 06:25 PM	#17
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Friends, I am trying to get in touch with Imagine Products. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

November 3rd, 2010, 06:40 PM	#18
Bob Griffiths Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Carbondale, Colorado Posts: 117	Phone and text contact here: https://www.imagineproducts.com/inde...age=contact_us I think the head honcho there is a guy named Dan. Nice guy. I sent him an email today to ask if he had ever considered concatenating files... so your calling him about this might ring a bell. Calling during the day is best. They are a small outfit. They take a bit to call back and answer emails but they are very good at improving their product. You should get a good reception. Thanks, Dan! You da best! __________________ Bob FireDancer Productions, Inc.

November 3rd, 2010, 06:59 PM	#19
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Bob, Dan, of Imagine Products, sent me an email tonight. I gave him all of my phone numbers. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

November 3rd, 2010, 07:03 PM	#20
Bob Griffiths Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Carbondale, Colorado Posts: 117	Good Luck! __________________ Bob FireDancer Productions, Inc.

November 3rd, 2010, 09:55 PM	#21
Luben Izov Major Player Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: White Rock Posts: 254	Thank you Thank you Bob for that find and Thank you Dan for going after it! Cheers

November 4th, 2010, 12:21 PM	#22
Dan Keaton Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 5,421	Dear Friends, Dan Montgomery of Imagine Products, Inc. and I had a nice, fruitful conversation this morning. I also discussed this with our engineers yesterday. A proper Quicktime File (".MOV") concatenation is rather complex. Without going into all of the details, here is an approximation of what has to be performed. For the first file, the header info has to be changed, subsequent headers have to be deleted. For each file, the file trailer has to be moved and then changed except for maybe the first file. To state this differently, the indexes in the file trailer have to be recreated, A lot of tedious work has to be performed, as there is an index to every frame in the file and, of course, the index has to be accurate. While it would be possible to perform a file copy and file concatenation at one time, I do not think this is prudent. If a problem with the file concatenation ever occured, and was found later, then the original files may not still be available. Thus, a two-step process is the best choice, in my opinion, at least until the second step, file concatenation is proven to be rock solid. ShotPut Pro is excellent software for the file copy process, and it is widely respected and recommended. Thus, I feel that it is best to use ShotPut Pro for the first step. We are working with Imagine Products. __________________ Dan Keaton Augusta Georgia

November 4th, 2010, 04:11 PM	#23
Bob Griffiths Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Carbondale, Colorado Posts: 117	Dan, you're still da best! Here's hoping for a simple, easy, effective solution! Thanks! __________________ Bob FireDancer Productions, Inc.

November 5th, 2010, 01:18 AM	#24
Dave Chalmers Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: GLASGOW, UK Posts: 71	Alternate offloading SW You guys should check out Offloader from VideoToolshed. VideoToolShed - Offloader It already does file verification to two destinations and it's currently donationware. It can also do transcoding and timecode insertion on Canon 5D files which is pretty handy. Regards Dave