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Robin Probyn · December 12th, 2010, 07:55 PM

Did first job without running tape.10 person interview against green screen.. would have been a pile of tapes.. backed up to 2 HDD,s.. already in the edit.. no problems..
But sure 2/3 tape jobs will still shoot both.. or offer the backup tapes if they are paid for for,for longer jobs..

Got to love Shotput pro..!!

Dean Harrington · December 13th, 2010, 05:04 PM

CF/SDHC cards and solid state storage are a viable recording and dumping option and tape ... got tons of them ... is getting less important in the process. On the EX3/NanoFlash I've been tapeless for some time and do not miss the tapes ... more closet space. Now, I just keep watching the SSDs advance and get cheaper ... I think this will be the way things will go very soon anyway!

Robin Probyn · December 13th, 2010, 10:14 PM

Not sure about storage.. had first HDD die on me the other day.. what do people use these days Blu ray.. ?

Perrone Ford · December 13th, 2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin Probyn

Not sure about storage.. had first HDD die on me the other day.. what do people use these days Blu ray.. ?

I haven't shot tape since 2004. Haven't missed it either. And yes, I archive to BluRay. ~$1.50 per disk. That holds 1hour of source files, my master, my deliverables, a viewing program, and any exotic codec required if I used any.

I don't want to SEE another tape.

Adam Stanislav · December 14th, 2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin Probyn

had first HDD die on me the other day..

The first time that happened to me I bought SpinRite. It restored the disk and I have not had a problem with any disk ever since.

Robin Probyn · December 14th, 2010, 01:51 AM

Looks like it only works on PC,s no mention of Mac?

Dean Harrington · December 14th, 2010, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin Probyn

Not sure about storage.. had first HDD die on me the other day.. what do people use these days Blu ray.. ?

Got some on hard disks and online back-up storage as well.

Adam Stanislav · December 14th, 2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin Probyn

Looks like it only works on PC,s no mention of Mac?

SpinRite requires PC BIOS to work. If you have access to a PC, you could place the hard drive in an external enclosure (preferably eSATA since it is faster than USB) and have SpinRite work on it. Then you put the drive back into your Mac.

Ron Little · December 14th, 2010, 11:41 AM

Perrone, where do you get your BluRay disk? I am going to start backing up this way.

Perrone Ford · December 14th, 2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Little

Perrone, where do you get your BluRay disk? I am going to start backing up this way.

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Ron Little · December 14th, 2010, 01:25 PM

Thank you Perrone.
Can you make a recommendation on brand?

Perrone Ford · December 14th, 2010, 01:57 PM

I've used Sony, TDK, Verbatim, Maxell, and Imation... all without incident. Honestly, I don't think there's that much difference between them. I've never burned coaster in 2.5 years.

Rafael Amador · December 14th, 2010, 03:09 PM

Since I started shooting with the EX-1 I started archiving in BR.
Now I'm storing on HDs. There are more flexible than BR.
With the BR you must organize very well your stuff.
Once burned you can't change nothing.
With HDs you can organize after storing.

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Originally Posted by Robin Probyn

Not sure about storage.. had first HDD die on me the other day.. what do people use these days Blu ray.. ?

here in laos i have to manage by my self when a HD die.
With DataRescue and FileSalvage i've been able to get every single thing from HDs, SDHCs and failed SxS cards.
Try the free trial.
rafael

Robin Probyn · December 15th, 2010, 02:49 AM

But isnt that the point of using BR for backup.. to avoid using data rescue for all the drives that go down.. even if you can save them.. ???

Rafael Amador · December 15th, 2010, 06:10 AM

Yes Robin, but when you can use a single 2TB HD, you don't need to manage 20 x 50Gbs disks.
For storage I'm using duplicated FW400/USB-2 Hds. In two standard HD I put the same than in 50 disks.Cheaper and faster transfer speed than BRs.
No need to transfer footage when needed. You can edit directly from those HDs.
Any other operation (cloning/coping) is easier and faster.

When I bought my BR in 2007, HDs were smaller and more expensive. BR was an option. Now, I wouldn't go that way.
One of the reasons made me adopt the BR is that I thought that some time most computers would have BR player. Is not like that (at least with Macs). if I wan't to travel with my BRs, I have to carry the bulky BR player wherever I go.
I've definitely stopped with the BRs when I started shooting with the NANO.
Rafael

December 12th, 2010, 07:55 PM	#1
Robin Probyn Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tokyo Posts: 590	1st job nano only Did first job without running tape.10 person interview against green screen.. would have been a pile of tapes.. backed up to 2 HDD,s.. already in the edit.. no problems.. But sure 2/3 tape jobs will still shoot both.. or offer the backup tapes if they are paid for for,for longer jobs.. Got to love Shotput pro..!!

December 13th, 2010, 05:04 PM	#2
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	just shows ... CF/SDHC cards and solid state storage are a viable recording and dumping option and tape ... got tons of them ... is getting less important in the process. On the EX3/NanoFlash I've been tapeless for some time and do not miss the tapes ... more closet space. Now, I just keep watching the SSDs advance and get cheaper ... I think this will be the way things will go very soon anyway! __________________ Sony EX3, Panasonic DVX 100, SG Blade, Nanoflash, FCP 7, MacBookPro intel. http://www.deanharringtonvisual.com/

December 14th, 2010, 01:57 PM	#12
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	I've used Sony, TDK, Verbatim, Maxell, and Imation... all without incident. Honestly, I don't think there's that much difference between them. I've never burned coaster in 2.5 years. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

December 13th, 2010, 10:14 PM	#3
Robin Probyn Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tokyo Posts: 590	Not sure about storage.. had first HDD die on me the other day.. what do people use these days Blu ray.. ?

December 14th, 2010, 01:51 AM	#6
Robin Probyn Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tokyo Posts: 590	Looks like it only works on PC,s no mention of Mac?

December 14th, 2010, 11:41 AM	#9
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Perrone, where do you get your BluRay disk? I am going to start backing up this way.

December 14th, 2010, 01:25 PM	#11
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Thank you Perrone. Can you make a recommendation on brand?

December 15th, 2010, 02:49 AM	#14
Robin Probyn Major Player Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Tokyo Posts: 590	But isnt that the point of using BR for backup.. to avoid using data rescue for all the drives that go down.. even if you can save them.. ???

December 15th, 2010, 06:10 AM	#15
Rafael Amador Major Player Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Vientiane (Lao PDR) Posts: 349	Yes Robin, but when you can use a single 2TB HD, you don't need to manage 20 x 50Gbs disks. For storage I'm using duplicated FW400/USB-2 Hds. In two standard HD I put the same than in 50 disks.Cheaper and faster transfer speed than BRs. No need to transfer footage when needed. You can edit directly from those HDs. Any other operation (cloning/coping) is easier and faster. When I bought my BR in 2007, HDs were smaller and more expensive. BR was an option. Now, I wouldn't go that way. One of the reasons made me adopt the BR is that I thought that some time most computers would have BR player. Is not like that (at least with Macs). if I wan't to travel with my BRs, I have to carry the bulky BR player wherever I go. I've definitely stopped with the BRs when I started shooting with the NANO. Rafael