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Old October 14th, 2011, 05:41 PM   #1
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TC over HDMI - when?

So it'll soon be half a year since we have the FS100 camera with its gorgeous HDMI output, which also conveys the TC....

May I ask for ETA on the promised nanoFlash firmware to handle the FS100 timecode?

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Old October 17th, 2011, 04:48 AM   #2
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Re: TC over HDMI - when?

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So it'll soon be half a year since we have the FS100 camera with its gorgeous HDMI output, which also conveys the TC....

May I ask for ETA on the promised nanoFlash firmware to handle the FS100 timecode?

Thanks

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I was about to resurrect my old thread to ask the same question :)



Now that we're here, another question. The FS100 also does "RGB" over HDMI, does anyone know what this is and if it's something the Nano could make use of?
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Old October 17th, 2011, 05:17 AM   #3
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Re: TC over HDMI - when?

Dear Bob,

I will ask Sony today about their RGB mode in the FS100.

In the F3, RGB mode is typically associated with 4:4:4.
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Old October 17th, 2011, 07:25 AM   #4
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Re: TC over HDMI - when?

RGB encoding is required by the HDMI interface standard. That was one of the hold overs from DVI to ensure compatibility with RGB displays such as computer monitors. This is one of the reasons you can buy a DVI to HDMI cable and use your computer monitor just like a HDMI monitor or use a HDMI monitor with a computer with a simple "dumb" cable.

For reference my Sony V1u and HC3 both have HDMI outputs and I've connected them directly to RGB only monitors by using a HDMI to DVI cable. This means both of those cameras support the RGB colorspace via HDMI. Any HDMI source correctly supporting the full standard must do this.

The truly interesting question to answer is this - What are the specs on the RAW output stream from the video processor inside the FS100? The answer to that question will tell you if there is something there worth investment of your time.

If the internal processor outputs 8bit 4:2:2 then regardless of what is coming out of the HDMI port its not going to be REAL. Extra bits will be added by the HDMI encoder to conform to the signal standards. There won't be any extra information to use.
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Old October 21st, 2011, 05:53 AM   #5
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Re: TC over HDMI - when?

Just to remind CD that mine (and Bob's) question on a new firmware ETA has still not been addressed...

And it's not just a question about time, but - more importantly - CD's ability & willingness to provide us F100/nanoFlash users with the TC-over-HDMI support.
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Old October 23rd, 2011, 10:49 AM   #6
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Re: TC over HDMI - when?

Dear Friends,

As most of you are aware, we are very busy finishing the firmware for the Gemini 4:4:4.

As soon as possible, we will be updating the firmware in the nanoFlash to recognize the Timecode embedded in the Sony FS100 HDMI stream (if possible).

In the meantime, the nanoFlash allows you to generate internal timecode.

Of course, this would mean that the timecode in the FS100 (if used) would be different than the timecode in the nanoFlash and pressing the record button on the FS100 would not automatically start the nanoFlash.

I only offer this as a workaround until we can add this feature to the nanoFlash.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 08:14 AM   #7
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Dear Friends,

As most of you are aware, we are very busy finishing the firmware for the Gemini 4:4:4.

As soon as possible, we will be updating the firmware in the nanoFlash to recognize the Timecode embedded in the Sony FS100 HDMI stream (if possible).

In the meantime, the nanoFlash allows you to generate internal timecode.

Of course, this would mean that the timecode in the FS100 (if used) would be different than the timecode in the nanoFlash and pressing the record button on the FS100 would not automatically start the nanoFlash.

I only offer this as a workaround until we can add this feature to the nanoFlash.
The difference in the TC between the camera and the Nano is probably not such a big issue. Having to press the record button on the Nano is an issue.
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Old November 26th, 2011, 12:28 PM   #8
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Re: TC over HDMI - when?

I'd really like a definite answer from CD on the following promises re: the nanoFlash firmware:

- TC over HDMI (mainly with the FS100)
- removing bug in cranked MXF files
- ability to mix analog and embedded audio

Now, I understand perfectly all CD's manpower is devoted to the Gemini now, but please don't forget about you loyal nanoFlash customers!

Thanks,

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