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Bohumil Stanek · February 16th, 2009, 08:57 AM

Hello,

I have 2d animation and I would like to put it on a tin which
would be rotaiting. Any ideas?

Thanks

Trish Kerr · February 16th, 2009, 04:51 PM

You make a 3d cylinder in a 3d program using a basic cylinder primitive = then put an animated material on the tin can. I've not tried this personally but as long as the 3d program allows for animated materials it should work.

Blender is an open source free 3d program (blender.org) - not as intuitive as I'd like, but it's free and some amazing animations have been created from it.

Trish

Aric Mannion · February 17th, 2009, 10:53 AM

I don't know how to do this, but After Effects and Photoshop has advertised the ability to make simpler 3D graphics like a soda can and a label to rotate in after effects. It actually looks a bit complicated to me though.
I took a look at After Effects CS3, and there is an Effect under Perspective called CC Cylinder. It wraps the image into a cylinder shape and you can decide the radius, but that is all that it does. If you make a camera you can rotate the camera around it, which seems to be the only way to rotate the image, with this effect.
I don't think this will work for you if you are trying to actually put a label on a live action tin? But you may be able to get away with the CC Cylinder effect if you had an image of a flat rectangle (of the tin with a label on it), to make into a cylinder in After Effects. Then you could just rotate that, but if you have to see the top or bottom lids of the tin it gets a bit more complicated.

Jim Andrada · February 23rd, 2009, 07:25 PM

Re an animated label, I think Cinema 4D supports that sort of thing - when I have some time later tonight I'll open it and see if I can do it - I might also look at Lightwave to see if I can figure out how to do it.

Jim Andrada · February 23rd, 2009, 08:13 PM

OK, I got it working in Cinema 4D

I'll post a link to the animation as soon as I finish dinner, but I think it's what you were wanting to do. Should have it up in an hour or two.

Jim Andrada · February 23rd, 2009, 09:56 PM

OK, here's something I did in Cinema 4D in about 15 minutes - not particularly elegant but I think it's along the lines you were asking about. If I'd had a little more time to play with it I could have had liquid and ice cubes sloshing around inside the glass or pouring out onto a table or something thanks to a fluid dynamics simulator called RealFlow.

Fairly simple - I defined a plane and applied a wrap deformer to wrap it around a cylinder, applied an avi file to the plane as a texture and then "stuck" the deformed plane onto the outside of a glass and then rotated the glass around a couple of axes to prove that the animation ran OK as the glass rotated.

www.j-e-andrada.com/label.avi

I think a similar thing could be done in just about any decent 3D package.

Anyhow, just a long way of saying that yes, it can be done. Only caveat is that the learning curve on these 3D packages is sort of straight up and (except for Blender) they aren't cheap. If this isn't something you expect to do a lot of you might be better off finding someone in your area to do it for you.

Dan Quintero · February 24th, 2009, 07:00 PM

Offset, warp effects (or something similar), and a source light.

February 16th, 2009, 08:57 AM	#1
Bohumil Stanek New Boot Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brno, Czech republic Posts: 18	Put 2d animation on tin Hello, I have 2d animation and I would like to put it on a tin which would be rotaiting. Any ideas? Thanks

February 23rd, 2009, 09:56 PM	#6
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	OK, here's something I did in Cinema 4D in about 15 minutes - not particularly elegant but I think it's along the lines you were asking about. If I'd had a little more time to play with it I could have had liquid and ice cubes sloshing around inside the glass or pouring out onto a table or something thanks to a fluid dynamics simulator called RealFlow. Fairly simple - I defined a plane and applied a wrap deformer to wrap it around a cylinder, applied an avi file to the plane as a texture and then "stuck" the deformed plane onto the outside of a glass and then rotated the glass around a couple of axes to prove that the animation ran OK as the glass rotated. www.j-e-andrada.com/label.avi I think a similar thing could be done in just about any decent 3D package. Anyhow, just a long way of saying that yes, it can be done. Only caveat is that the learning curve on these 3D packages is sort of straight up and (except for Blender) they aren't cheap. If this isn't something you expect to do a lot of you might be better off finding someone in your area to do it for you. Last edited by Jim Andrada; February 23rd, 2009 at 11:37 PM.

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February 16th, 2009, 04:51 PM	#2
Trish Kerr Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 294	You make a 3d cylinder in a 3d program using a basic cylinder primitive = then put an animated material on the tin can. I've not tried this personally but as long as the 3d program allows for animated materials it should work. Blender is an open source free 3d program (blender.org) - not as intuitive as I'd like, but it's free and some amazing animations have been created from it. Trish

February 17th, 2009, 10:53 AM	#3
Aric Mannion Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 616	I don't know how to do this, but After Effects and Photoshop has advertised the ability to make simpler 3D graphics like a soda can and a label to rotate in after effects. It actually looks a bit complicated to me though. I took a look at After Effects CS3, and there is an Effect under Perspective called CC Cylinder. It wraps the image into a cylinder shape and you can decide the radius, but that is all that it does. If you make a camera you can rotate the camera around it, which seems to be the only way to rotate the image, with this effect. I don't think this will work for you if you are trying to actually put a label on a live action tin? But you may be able to get away with the CC Cylinder effect if you had an image of a flat rectangle (of the tin with a label on it), to make into a cylinder in After Effects. Then you could just rotate that, but if you have to see the top or bottom lids of the tin it gets a bit more complicated.

February 23rd, 2009, 07:25 PM	#4
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Re an animated label, I think Cinema 4D supports that sort of thing - when I have some time later tonight I'll open it and see if I can do it - I might also look at Lightwave to see if I can figure out how to do it.

February 23rd, 2009, 08:13 PM	#5
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	OK, I got it working in Cinema 4D I'll post a link to the animation as soon as I finish dinner, but I think it's what you were wanting to do. Should have it up in an hour or two.

February 24th, 2009, 07:00 PM	#7
Dan Quintero Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: bend, oregon Posts: 32	Offset, warp effects (or something similar), and a source light.