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Old June 21st, 2006, 08:35 AM   #16
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After Effects isn't the only game in town. That is why I think the proposed title for the forum, or group of forums, is most appropriate: Compositing and special effects.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 08:46 AM   #17
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with apple selling shake for $499 and cheapie crossgrades from FCP to full Studio, including Motion, i think you're gonna be seeing a sudden influx of more users of these other apps...and a lot more questions....
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Old June 21st, 2006, 09:55 AM   #18
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with apple selling shake for $499 and cheapie crossgrades from FCP to full Studio, including Motion, i think you're gonna be seeing a sudden influx of more users of these other apps...and a lot more questions....
I agree. I'm one who just bought Shake 4.1! I'm not entirely new to composting or DVFX and I think this suggestion is a good one.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 10:04 AM   #19
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Just wanted to chime in as another board member that whole heartly agrees with the idea of having a Compositing/Visual Effects (maybe even include motion graphics) board.

There are many many questions peppered all over a number of forums regarding compositing and visual effects. These questions don't always fall into the various NLE buckets we have already, they are difficult to hunt down and find when simlar questions appear again later (in a different forum than the older thread containing an answer :p ) and those of us with with a strong interest, focus and experience in these areas have no way to subscribe or monitor a central location that might contain directly useful information or questions related to our field.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 10:05 AM   #20
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The problem I have with this subject, is that 99.9% of the people are using FCP or AE for compositing. I am in the .01% that don't have either, and end up using Photoshop, or whatever free program I can find.

Now, if you would be willing to use the proposed forum to find and use low budget alternatives in addition to how to use them, I'm for it!
There are many many low cost alternatives, and also specialized techniques for Photoshop. Would be great to have a forum here to discuss them. :)
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Old June 21st, 2006, 10:16 AM   #21
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Jemero: at the moment there is no such forum. There is sometimes a topic on
After Effects in the Adobe forums for example.

Usually Chris starts a forum when there is sufficient traffic to warrant one
(ie, enough topics on the subject) so we don't have empty forums.

So the best way to get it is to start discussing those subjects! The best place
to do that in is probably the Open DV Discussion forum.

Thanks for the feedback!

p.s. Chris will respond to this topic as well with the "final" answer. I just
wanted to give you a heads up on how this usually works here.
Here are just a few examples from the first page of hits from a basic search on the word "keying". Feel free to let me know if you need more examples on other effects related subjects. :)

Sony HVR-A1 Board
Open DV Board
Alternative Imaging Board
HVX200 Board
XL2 Board
Indie Production Board
Another from the Indie Board
HD / HDV Editing Board
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Old June 21st, 2006, 11:03 AM   #22
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Hmmm... gears... turning... mind... thinking... description would be Compositing and Special Effects?
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Old June 21st, 2006, 11:06 AM   #23
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For many people, "Special Effects" describes on set/in-camera effect (explosions, camera tricks, etc.) ... and Visual Effects are in post.

How about dodging that whole thing with something more general:
"Digital Compositing and Effects"
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Old June 21st, 2006, 11:48 AM   #24
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Old June 21st, 2006, 02:37 PM   #25
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Title

The name has to be broad enough to cover several areas, 3D, compositing, DVFX. But it needs to be narrow enough so that it doesn't end up as a catch all for doing something easily accomplished in Vegas, FCP or Premier.
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Old June 21st, 2006, 02:55 PM   #26
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Agreed. (Which is part of why I avoided software specific boards in my examples post above.)

This discussions of this board seem to be geared towards Comp & Effects related tools and techniques that are not specific to an application that has it's own board here already.

I think Digital Post gets a little too broad, since things like DVD Authoring and/or web encoding fall under that umbrella. Besides the fact that these areas already have a board here, they would be outside the intended focus of the board we're talking about here (as far as I can tell anyway).

"Digital Compositing & Effects" is narrow enough to focus on post production effects, while also being broad enough to include 3D and even motion graphics. :)
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 08:54 AM   #27
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I think this is a great idea. While there are compositing forums out there on the web they are the sort of places that most video users would never bother to check out. Those forums tend to be for a specific application as well. With more and more indy producers trying out sci-fi it would be great to have a forum on effects from other indies point of view. Besides now that Shake was just dropped to $499.00 you can bet there are going to be a butt load of indy producers getting into compositing and effects.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 10:13 AM   #28
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How about dodging that whole thing with something more general: "Digital Compositing and Effects"
Great forum name!
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 10:19 AM   #29
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Ok... So what do you all recommend for the PC, on the low to free end?
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 10:27 AM   #30
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Ok... So what do you all recommend for the PC, on the low to free end?
What type of effects do you want to create?
What tools do you already have?

How close to "free" does something need to be to qualify as "low"?
$500? $300? $100? $50?

Another important consideration is how much time you have/want to invest into the tool. There are some really powerful free tools out there, but they can have steep learning curves.
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