YouTube now supports high definition video

Perrone Ford · December 5th, 2008, 12:37 PM

The only issue with Youtube, is the 10 minute length limit. For those doing longer-form projects like I have to do, it's a huge limitation. For basic shorts, or other fun things, it's just fine.

Craig Seeman · December 5th, 2008, 05:50 PM

Good to see EX1 720p video on YouTube. Thanks for that.

Right now Vimeo has the advantage in
No 10 minute limit.
Ability to download source.
Ability to password protect file as needed.

YouTube Advantage
720p30 vs Vimeo 720p24
No limit to HD uploads compared to 1 per week for Vimeo free.
No per week upload limit compared to 500MB for Vimeo free and 2GB for Vimeo Plus $60.
YouTube's 1GB file upload limit means you can upload a higher data rate single file than with Vimeo free's 500MB for the entire week.
YouTube generally will mean your file will get more views due to discovery.

I think YouTube has the lead.

Erik Phairas · December 5th, 2008, 08:26 PM

you don't need &fmt=22 anymore. They have a "Watch in HD" link on the bottom of the video now. Oh and I found out even though you pay for have 2 gb per week on vimeo, no single file can be larger than 1gb.

Craig Seeman · December 5th, 2008, 09:19 PM

So what I'm seeing is that some videos have Normal and High Quality and others have Normal and HD. Basically they all have Normal Quality and the other setting is either Hight Quality or HD depending on the file uploaded.

So if the video is HD it will be offered as an option. No special code needed. Thanks for spotting that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik Phairas

you don't need &fmt=22 anymore. They have a "Watch in HD" link on the bottom of the video now. Oh and I found out even though you pay for have 2 gb per week on vimeo, no single file can be larger than 1gb.

Noah Kadner · December 5th, 2008, 09:22 PM

Dang that is the sharpest thing I've ever seen on Youtube. Now I just need FiOS for the extra bandwidth and life will be grand indeed.

Verizon FiOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Noah

Dominik Seibold · December 5th, 2008, 10:50 PM

It's also great for tutorial-videos:
YouTube - high-quality HD to SD-DVD conversion with FCP

Ted OMalley · December 5th, 2008, 11:06 PM

Too bad you can't get the higher quality recording when you embed it - nobody is really helping with that as far as I know. Well, maybe Exposure Room, but certainly YouTube and Vimeo drop the quality on embedded files.

Maybe one of you know of a workaround - love to hear it...

Bill Heslip · December 6th, 2008, 12:28 AM

Here is some useful information on embedding options:

http://generalspecialist.com/2008/09...ps-in-high.asp

This was written before HD was an option (last week?), but I would think you could simply replace &fmt=18 with &fmt=22 and achieve the same embedding result, only in HD.

I just threw up this little ditty and I'm stunned at the quality (or maybe my expectations were so low?) Shot with an EX1, of course. Watch it full-screen for best results :)

YouTube - A Day at Big Spring Park in Huntsville, AL

C.S. Michael · December 6th, 2008, 05:56 AM

One key advantage to Vimeo is the ability to "replace video" -- to upload a replacement video file without having to recreate the entire page, etc. I really wish that YouTube would add this option.

Ted OMalley · December 6th, 2008, 08:41 AM

Success!

Bill, I replaced the URL portions of the embed code with this:

http://www.youtube.com/v/zBFi_P9x9C4...ap=%2526fmt=22

It embedded great!

I opted for 640x360 for rapid downloads for people, but you have to add 28 pixels to the height for the progress bar, so I changed the dimensions to 640 and 388 in both locations.

This will really help me for a project I'm working on. Of course, in my project, I'll use my own video and not Bills!

Mitchell Lewis · December 6th, 2008, 10:16 AM

This is great news!

Erik Phairas · December 6th, 2008, 07:38 PM

HA, cracked it! This was a CBR 2 pass WMV 10mbps. The audio is fine (VBR screws up the audio). I think maybe a little more BR to clear up the compression artifacts.

YouTube - Redline Revolt buggy Dumont Dunes

This is an HDR SR11 BTW.

Erik Phairas · December 6th, 2008, 07:39 PM

HA, cracked it! This was a CBR 2 pass WMV 10mbps. The audio is fine. I think maybe a little more BR to clear up the compression artifacts.

YouTube - Redline Revolt buggy Dumont Dunes

This is an HDR SR11 BTW.

Paul Joy · December 6th, 2008, 07:43 PM

It seems YouTube have not only caught up with the quality of vimeo and exposure room, they've substantially raised the bar!

I still prefer XR for embedding video because the YT player's functionality is really invasive, but it sure looks good!

YouTube goes HD | Paul Joy

Paul.

Craig Seeman · December 6th, 2008, 08:35 PM

You do NOT need to append &fmt=22
They now offer HD as a playback option normally. See my previous post. Depending on what what you've uploaded

Normal or High Quality
Normal or HD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominik Seibold

Youtube is now capable of of showing 720p-content. If there's a 720p-version of a particular clip, you have to append &fmt=22 to the url to see it.
Here is an example I shot with my ex1:
YouTube - Filips Diplomkonzert

December 5th, 2008, 12:37 PM	#46
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	The only issue with Youtube, is the 10 minute length limit. For those doing longer-form projects like I have to do, it's a huge limitation. For basic shorts, or other fun things, it's just fine. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

December 5th, 2008, 11:06 PM	#52
Ted OMalley Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 596	Too bad you can't get the higher quality recording when you embed it - nobody is really helping with that as far as I know. Well, maybe Exposure Room, but certainly YouTube and Vimeo drop the quality on embedded files. Maybe one of you know of a workaround - love to hear it... __________________ Sony EX3, Vegas 9.0 64bit, Windows 7(64), Core i7, 12GB, RAID1 & 0, HotSwap SATA, 30" LCD(2560x1600)-GTX285 & 24" LCD(1360x768)-7800GT

December 6th, 2008, 05:56 AM	#54
C.S. Michael Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 197	One key advantage to Vimeo is the ability to "replace video" -- to upload a replacement video file without having to recreate the entire page, etc. I really wish that YouTube would add this option. __________________ Bored? Check out my blog (shot with Sony EX1, Panasonic TM700, Nikon D7100, Sony NEX-5N, GoPro2): LongLongHoneymoon.com

December 6th, 2008, 08:41 AM	#55
Ted OMalley Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 596	Success! Bill, I replaced the URL portions of the embed code with this: http://www.youtube.com/v/zBFi_P9x9C4...ap=%2526fmt=22 It embedded great! I opted for 640x360 for rapid downloads for people, but you have to add 28 pixels to the height for the progress bar, so I changed the dimensions to 640 and 388 in both locations. This will really help me for a project I'm working on. Of course, in my project, I'll use my own video and not Bills! __________________ Sony EX3, Vegas 9.0 64bit, Windows 7(64), Core i7, 12GB, RAID1 & 0, HotSwap SATA, 30" LCD(2560x1600)-GTX285 & 24" LCD(1360x768)-7800GT

December 6th, 2008, 07:43 PM	#59
Paul Joy Major Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 627	It seems YouTube have not only caught up with the quality of vimeo and exposure room, they've substantially raised the bar! I still prefer XR for embedding video because the YT player's functionality is really invasive, but it sure looks good! YouTube goes HD \| Paul Joy Paul. __________________ Blog: www.pauljoy.com Company: www.videotrader.co.uk

December 5th, 2008, 05:50 PM	#47
Craig Seeman Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY, USA Posts: 3,841	Good to see EX1 720p video on YouTube. Thanks for that. Right now Vimeo has the advantage in No 10 minute limit. Ability to download source. Ability to password protect file as needed. YouTube Advantage 720p30 vs Vimeo 720p24 No limit to HD uploads compared to 1 per week for Vimeo free. No per week upload limit compared to 500MB for Vimeo free and 2GB for Vimeo Plus $60. YouTube's 1GB file upload limit means you can upload a higher data rate single file than with Vimeo free's 500MB for the entire week. YouTube generally will mean your file will get more views due to discovery. I think YouTube has the lead.

December 5th, 2008, 08:26 PM	#48
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	you don't need &fmt=22 anymore. They have a "Watch in HD" link on the bottom of the video now. Oh and I found out even though you pay for have 2 gb per week on vimeo, no single file can be larger than 1gb.

December 5th, 2008, 09:22 PM	#50
Noah Kadner Better than Halle Berry Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 435	Dang that is the sharpest thing I've ever seen on Youtube. Now I just need FiOS for the extra bandwidth and life will be grand indeed. Verizon FiOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Noah

December 5th, 2008, 10:50 PM	#51
Dominik Seibold Major Player Join Date: May 2008 Location: Nuremberg, Germany Posts: 285	It's also great for tutorial-videos: YouTube - high-quality HD to SD-DVD conversion with FCP

December 6th, 2008, 12:28 AM	#53
Bill Heslip Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 129	Here is some useful information on embedding options: http://generalspecialist.com/2008/09...ps-in-high.asp This was written before HD was an option (last week?), but I would think you could simply replace &fmt=18 with &fmt=22 and achieve the same embedding result, only in HD. I just threw up this little ditty and I'm stunned at the quality (or maybe my expectations were so low?) Shot with an EX1, of course. Watch it full-screen for best results :) YouTube - A Day at Big Spring Park in Huntsville, AL

December 6th, 2008, 10:16 AM	#56
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	This is great news!

December 6th, 2008, 07:38 PM	#57
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	HA, cracked it! This was a CBR 2 pass WMV 10mbps. The audio is fine (VBR screws up the audio). I think maybe a little more BR to clear up the compression artifacts. YouTube - Redline Revolt buggy Dumont Dunes This is an HDR SR11 BTW.

December 6th, 2008, 07:39 PM	#58
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	HA, cracked it! This was a CBR 2 pass WMV 10mbps. The audio is fine. I think maybe a little more BR to clear up the compression artifacts. YouTube - Redline Revolt buggy Dumont Dunes This is an HDR SR11 BTW.