Sanyo 1920x1080 60p camcorders announced at DVinfo.net

Paulo Teixeira · January 22nd, 2009, 12:36 AM

Canadian press release:
SANYO Announces New "Dual Camera" Xacti All-HD Line-up for 2009

David Sholle · January 22nd, 2009, 01:53 PM

Here is another link with photos and more information:

SANYO :: Dual Cameras

Edit to add:

The pricing looks very reasonable on these models and the 1080p mode is interesting. Also the waterproof model is intriguing. It will be interesting to see tests of these models to see how they perform.

Jack Zhang · January 22nd, 2009, 04:39 PM

Like JVC was to HDV, Sanyo is to 1080p60 recording... The first to do so in a consumer camera!

Now let's see how the professional world will come out with a cost-effective 1080p60 camera. (but please, no rolling shutters...)

Kurth Bousman · January 22nd, 2009, 04:42 PM

the waterproof wh1 is too cool - any word on prices ?

Brian Standing · January 22nd, 2009, 04:45 PM

Where are you finding the pricing info? I couldn't spot a price.

Also, what on earth is "Face-Chasing Technology?"

Paulo Teixeira · January 22nd, 2009, 05:27 PM

You can find the pricing in here:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/2118...ti-camcorders/

Paulo Teixeira · January 23rd, 2009, 12:48 AM

1920x1080 60p wouldn’t look that good if the bit rate is too low but 24MBPS in not bad.

Its too bad you wont be able to make 1080 60p movies on Blu-Ray but I wonder if the PS3 will be able to play the RAW files.

Here’s some extra pictures:
Sanyo Goes HD Crazy with Five New Xacti! Live from the Sanyo HQ : Akihabara News .com

John Palaganas · January 23rd, 2009, 10:35 AM

How's that possible? 1080/60p? I thought AVCHD progressive frame specification goes up to only 30p at 1080 res?

Brian Standing · January 23rd, 2009, 12:01 PM

It's not AVCHD-compliant. It's AVC h.264 instead.

Nicky Campos · January 23rd, 2009, 01:10 PM

Why can I not find info on the size of the sensor???

Anyone know the size of the sensor???

Jack Zhang · January 23rd, 2009, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira

Its too bad you wont be able to make 1080 60p movies on Blu-Ray but I wonder if the PS3 will be able to play the RAW files.

No, the PS3 decoding AVC at 60p would lag at the 40-50 frames per second range. Unless there is a optimization of the Cell to use the SPUs during decoding, it's not possible today with all the decoding on the PPU. XviD however is the only codec able to play at 1920x1080 60p on the PS3 at 19mbps. (any higher bitrate and it would overload the buses)

But I think a Nvidia GTX 2xx series GPU or a Core i7 at 3.2Ghz would do fine with AVC at 1080p60.

A while back, I dreamed of a pro codec called AVCPRO that would record AVC to tape and be in 1080p60. It seems they've skipped tape alltogether.

Paulo Teixeira · January 23rd, 2009, 03:07 PM

1/2.5" CMOS
http://us.sanyo.com/Dynamic/news/doc...ifications.pdf

Rick Hill · January 23rd, 2009, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulo Teixeira

1920x1080 60p wouldn’t look that good if the bit rate is too low but 24MBPS in not bad.

Its too bad you wont be able to make 1080 60p movies on Blu-Ray but I wonder if the PS3 will be able to play the RAW files.

Here’s some extra pictures:
Sanyo Goes HD Crazy with Five New Xacti! Live from the Sanyo HQ : Akihabara News .com

Filter size is 40.5mm diameter. Is that even a standard? Can one get step rings for this? If not would one be stuck with the Xacti lenses they are showing. I hope not. Did anyone notice the huge amount of vignetting in the pictures with the 0.4x WA lens?

1080/60p is cool. With the HDMI I am assuming HDMI capable HDTV's can handle playback at 1080/60p direct from the camcorder.

Ken Hull · January 23rd, 2009, 08:27 PM

Rick,
Yes, 40.5mm is a standard filter size. And B&H lists 10 step up rings for that size lens.

Step Up Rings | B&H Photo Video

Ken

Duane Steiner · January 24th, 2009, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Hill

Filter size is 40.5mm diameter. Is that even a standard? Can one get step rings for this? If not would one be stuck with the Xacti lenses they are showing. I hope not. Did anyone notice the huge amount of vignetting in the pictures with the 0.4x WA lens?

I use a 40.5mm to 43mm step up ring on my HD1000 to mount a 43mm hood. Also used my Raynox HD6600 WA (43mm mount) and it worked fine.

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Paulo Teixeira Trustee Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,773	1920x1080 60p wouldn’t look that good if the bit rate is too low but 24MBPS in not bad. Its too bad you wont be able to make 1080 60p movies on Blu-Ray but I wonder if the PS3 will be able to play the RAW files. Here’s some extra pictures: Sanyo Goes HD Crazy with Five New Xacti! Live from the Sanyo HQ : Akihabara News .com __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/PhotoVi...esEtc/featured https://www.pond5.com/artist/paulot Last edited by Paulo Teixeira; January 23rd, 2009 at 01:18 AM.

January 22nd, 2009, 04:39 PM	#3
Jack Zhang Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Burnaby, BC, Canada Posts: 3,053	Like JVC was to HDV, Sanyo is to 1080p60 recording... The first to do so in a consumer camera! Now let's see how the professional world will come out with a cost-effective 1080p60 camera. (but please, no rolling shutters...)

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January 23rd, 2009, 10:35 AM	#8
John Palaganas Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 71	How's that possible? 1080/60p? I thought AVCHD progressive frame specification goes up to only 30p at 1080 res?

January 23rd, 2009, 12:01 PM	#9
Brian Standing Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 621	It's not AVCHD-compliant. It's AVC h.264 instead. __________________ http://www.prolefeedstudios.com/blog/ Documentary for the masses!

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Nicky Campos Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 35	Why can I not find info on the size of the sensor??? Anyone know the size of the sensor???

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January 23rd, 2009, 08:27 PM	#14
Ken Hull Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 240	40.5mm step up rings Rick, Yes, 40.5mm is a standard filter size. And B&H lists 10 step up rings for that size lens. Step Up Rings \| B&H Photo Video Ken