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Old January 22nd, 2009, 12:36 AM   #1
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Sanyo 1920x1080 60p camcorders announced

Canadian press release:
SANYO Announces New "Dual Camera" Xacti All-HD Line-up for 2009
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 01:53 PM   #2
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Here is another link with photos and more information:

SANYO :: Dual Cameras

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The pricing looks very reasonable on these models and the 1080p mode is interesting. Also the waterproof model is intriguing. It will be interesting to see tests of these models to see how they perform.

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Old January 22nd, 2009, 04:39 PM   #3
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Like JVC was to HDV, Sanyo is to 1080p60 recording... The first to do so in a consumer camera!

Now let's see how the professional world will come out with a cost-effective 1080p60 camera. (but please, no rolling shutters...)
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 04:42 PM   #4
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the waterproof wh1 is too cool - any word on prices ?
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 04:45 PM   #5
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Where are you finding the pricing info? I couldn't spot a price.

Also, what on earth is "Face-Chasing Technology?"
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Old January 22nd, 2009, 05:27 PM   #6
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You can find the pricing in here:
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/2118...ti-camcorders/
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:48 AM   #7
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1920x1080 60p wouldnít look that good if the bit rate is too low but 24MBPS in not bad.

Its too bad you wont be able to make 1080 60p movies on Blu-Ray but I wonder if the PS3 will be able to play the RAW files.

Hereís some extra pictures:
Sanyo Goes HD Crazy with Five New Xacti! Live from the Sanyo HQ : Akihabara News .com

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Old January 23rd, 2009, 10:35 AM   #8
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How's that possible? 1080/60p? I thought AVCHD progressive frame specification goes up to only 30p at 1080 res?
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 12:01 PM   #9
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It's not AVCHD-compliant. It's AVC h.264 instead.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 01:10 PM   #10
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Why can I not find info on the size of the sensor???

Anyone know the size of the sensor???
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 02:10 PM   #11
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Its too bad you wont be able to make 1080 60p movies on Blu-Ray but I wonder if the PS3 will be able to play the RAW files.
No, the PS3 decoding AVC at 60p would lag at the 40-50 frames per second range. Unless there is a optimization of the Cell to use the SPUs during decoding, it's not possible today with all the decoding on the PPU. XviD however is the only codec able to play at 1920x1080 60p on the PS3 at 19mbps. (any higher bitrate and it would overload the buses)

But I think a Nvidia GTX 2xx series GPU or a Core i7 at 3.2Ghz would do fine with AVC at 1080p60.

A while back, I dreamed of a pro codec called AVCPRO that would record AVC to tape and be in 1080p60. It seems they've skipped tape alltogether.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 03:07 PM   #12
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1/2.5" CMOS
http://us.sanyo.com/Dynamic/news/doc...ifications.pdf
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1920x1080 60p wouldn’t look that good if the bit rate is too low but 24MBPS in not bad.

Its too bad you wont be able to make 1080 60p movies on Blu-Ray but I wonder if the PS3 will be able to play the RAW files.

Here’s some extra pictures:
Sanyo Goes HD Crazy with Five New Xacti! Live from the Sanyo HQ : Akihabara News .com
Filter size is 40.5mm diameter. Is that even a standard? Can one get step rings for this? If not would one be stuck with the Xacti lenses they are showing. I hope not. Did anyone notice the huge amount of vignetting in the pictures with the 0.4x WA lens?

1080/60p is cool. With the HDMI I am assuming HDMI capable HDTV's can handle playback at 1080/60p direct from the camcorder.

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Old January 23rd, 2009, 08:27 PM   #14
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40.5mm step up rings

Rick,
Yes, 40.5mm is a standard filter size. And B&H lists 10 step up rings for that size lens.

Step Up Rings | B&H Photo Video

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Old January 24th, 2009, 09:09 AM   #15
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Filter size is 40.5mm diameter. Is that even a standard? Can one get step rings for this? If not would one be stuck with the Xacti lenses they are showing. I hope not. Did anyone notice the huge amount of vignetting in the pictures with the 0.4x WA lens?
I use a 40.5mm to 43mm step up ring on my HD1000 to mount a 43mm hood. Also used my Raynox HD6600 WA (43mm mount) and it worked fine.
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