Looks like the Sony PD170 is for real, finally... at DVinfo.net

Chris Hurd · September 12th, 2003, 07:34 AM

Jan van der Meer, whom I know personally as a trustworthy source, is reporting on Sony's unveiling of the PD170 at IBC going on right now in Europe: see http://www.global-dvc.org/html/PD170.asp.

Adrian Douglas · September 12th, 2003, 08:16 AM

Based on that report I think many Sony fans will be a little dissapointed as it's not the wondercam they were hoping for.

Chris Hurd · September 12th, 2003, 08:57 AM

I agree -- but who knows, they just might have *something else* in the works!

;-)

Ken Tanaka · September 12th, 2003, 11:53 AM

Huh. Looks like Sony is aiming for cat fanciers. "MEW SONY DSR-PD170"

Frank Granovski · September 12th, 2003, 12:14 PM

And keep in mind that the PD170 has a 17P progressive mode!

Glenn Gipson · September 12th, 2003, 12:41 PM

If this is real, then this is a tragedy for Sony. I knew they were arrogant and out of touch, but jeeeze.

Mathew Evan · September 12th, 2003, 01:06 PM

Well the pd150 is still selling out over here in the states. Sony supposedly cut back on the production of them because a slight dip in sales. They then dropped the price by a few hundred and now cannot keep up with the demand.

Regardless if this is any indication of what the pd170 will be then they can expect sales to dip again. The photo on that page does indeed make it look like a proto type. Maybe it's just the lighting but it looks like crap. A hodge podge of the pd150, vx1000 and the viewfinder looks like the one on the dvx100. Honestly I don't believe this thing will see the light of day over here in the states.

I think what most of us would be interested in: True 16:9 chips will not be seen on a prosumer camera (besides the pdx and JVC HD) for another couple of years. Sony probably wants to release a vx3000/pd?/dsr? with 16:9 and HD capabilities which is logical going by their track record. However this will take time because they do not want to canibalize their higher end.

Estimate before we see the real successor to the pd150; 3 years.

Hugh DiMauro · September 12th, 2003, 01:54 PM

Sounds like Chris Hurd might know something that he's not telling us. The two asterisks gave it away. All that is missing is the nod and wink.

Steven-Marc Couchouron · September 12th, 2003, 04:21 PM

There is now official info on the www.sonybiz.net site. It confirms Jan's findings...
Nothing to get excited about.

Patricia Kim · September 15th, 2003, 01:51 PM

The moderator of simplydv.com, who posted a story about the 170's arrival on September 8 on the front page of his web site, now says on a thread in his forum page that he was at IBC on September 13 and saw no such animal. Not my bailiwick, but there seems to have been so much discussion here (and even a little animus?) over this that I thought I would mention it.

David Slingerland · September 17th, 2003, 09:06 AM

well i saw it with my own eyes and its real allright!!
interesting new JVC, with hard disc system. The jvc DR-DV5000.
Then there is a new stabilizing system called the DVRigpro. I tried it on and its something between a steadystick, monopod and a true stabilizer like steadycam makes!! check it out for yourselfs at..www.dvtec.tv

Mike Zorger · September 17th, 2003, 01:16 PM

www.abcdv.com
The camera looks cool. I'm still all about the DVX100. It is real, and the vx2100 hundred is coming out soon also.

Mark Richman · September 18th, 2003, 01:28 PM

Basically my PD-150's are fantastic for wedding videos. My GL-2 is good, but the Sony's have that lowlight advantage.

When will other camera makers challenge Sony in lowlight arena?

LUX is even lower now at 1, compared to LUX2 on current 150's?
Awesome!

Video and Audio a little bit better?
Great!

Different FPS?
Nice touch

The next Uber-camera?
No, but this is a great improvement for me!

I can sense the Canon and Sony camps about to erupt in Flames against each other.

I am happy to have another choice in cameras.

September 12th, 2003, 07:34 AM	#1
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Looks like the Sony PD170 is for real, finally... Jan van der Meer, whom I know personally as a trustworthy source, is reporting on Sony's unveiling of the PD170 at IBC going on right now in Europe: see http://www.global-dvc.org/html/PD170.asp. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 12th, 2003, 08:16 AM	#2
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	Based on that report I think many Sony fans will be a little dissapointed as it's not the wondercam they were hoping for. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

September 12th, 2003, 08:57 AM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	I agree -- but who knows, they just might have something else in the works! ;-) __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

September 12th, 2003, 11:53 AM	#4
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Huh. Looks like Sony is aiming for cat fanciers. "MEW SONY DSR-PD170" __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

September 12th, 2003, 04:21 PM	#9
Steven-Marc Couchouron Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Paris, France Posts: 110 Images: 5	There is now official info on the www.sonybiz.net site. It confirms Jan's findings... Nothing to get excited about. __________________ SMCproductions.com

September 12th, 2003, 12:14 PM	#5
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	And keep in mind that the PD170 has a 17P progressive mode!

September 12th, 2003, 12:41 PM	#6
Glenn Gipson Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Plainfield, New Jersey Posts: 927	If this is real, then this is a tragedy for Sony. I knew they were arrogant and out of touch, but jeeeze.

September 12th, 2003, 01:06 PM	#7
Mathew Evan Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: United States Posts: 53	Well the pd150 is still selling out over here in the states. Sony supposedly cut back on the production of them because a slight dip in sales. They then dropped the price by a few hundred and now cannot keep up with the demand. Regardless if this is any indication of what the pd170 will be then they can expect sales to dip again. The photo on that page does indeed make it look like a proto type. Maybe it's just the lighting but it looks like crap. A hodge podge of the pd150, vx1000 and the viewfinder looks like the one on the dvx100. Honestly I don't believe this thing will see the light of day over here in the states. I think what most of us would be interested in: True 16:9 chips will not be seen on a prosumer camera (besides the pdx and JVC HD) for another couple of years. Sony probably wants to release a vx3000/pd?/dsr? with 16:9 and HD capabilities which is logical going by their track record. However this will take time because they do not want to canibalize their higher end. Estimate before we see the real successor to the pd150; 3 years.

September 12th, 2003, 01:54 PM	#8
Hugh DiMauro Trustee Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,205	Sounds like Chris Hurd might know something that he's not telling us. The two asterisks gave it away. All that is missing is the nod and wink.

September 15th, 2003, 01:51 PM	#10
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	The moderator of simplydv.com, who posted a story about the 170's arrival on September 8 on the front page of his web site, now says on a thread in his forum page that he was at IBC on September 13 and saw no such animal. Not my bailiwick, but there seems to have been so much discussion here (and even a little animus?) over this that I thought I would mention it.

September 17th, 2003, 09:06 AM	#11
David Slingerland Major Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soest ,Holland Posts: 307	well i saw it with my own eyes and its real allright!! interesting new JVC, with hard disc system. The jvc DR-DV5000. Then there is a new stabilizing system called the DVRigpro. I tried it on and its something between a steadystick, monopod and a true stabilizer like steadycam makes!! check it out for yourselfs at..www.dvtec.tv __________________ D.Slingerland director/cameraman http://www.slingerlandproductions.nl

September 17th, 2003, 01:16 PM	#12
Mike Zorger Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norther VA Posts: 163	GREAT PIC www.abcdv.com The camera looks cool. I'm still all about the DVX100. It is real, and the vx2100 hundred is coming out soon also.

September 18th, 2003, 01:28 PM	#13
Mark Richman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sarasota Posts: 79	I'm excited Basically my PD-150's are fantastic for wedding videos. My GL-2 is good, but the Sony's have that lowlight advantage. When will other camera makers challenge Sony in lowlight arena? LUX is even lower now at 1, compared to LUX2 on current 150's? Awesome! Video and Audio a little bit better? Great! Different FPS? Nice touch The next Uber-camera? No, but this is a great improvement for me! I can sense the Canon and Sony camps about to erupt in Flames against each other. I am happy to have another choice in cameras. __________________ Green Novice turning Yellow Pro Soon to be Ripe - So stand back!