Chris Hurd quoted in Videography Mag

Bill Markel · June 5th, 2002, 03:00 PM

Sooooo much of my decision to purchase the XL1S was based upon information found within this site.

Keep up the great work Chris.

Bill

Ivan Hedley Enger · January 28th, 2003, 11:56 AM

Hi Steve,

Excuse me, but I am just curious. Did you get many responses to your campaign for Chris? Did he ever get what he deserved, a new Canon XL1s?

Ivan

Steve Clodfelter · January 28th, 2003, 12:39 PM

Copy of an email I just sent to Steve Nunez for forwarding to Canon:

"Canon--Give Chris Hurd an XL1S! He provides you with a great service by providing technical support, at no charge to you, to many of your XL1S owners. Do the right thing, both for you and for him! Give him an XL1S!

Steve Clodfelter
sclodfelter@att.net"

Thanks, Chris! And thanks, Steve!

Tim Joseph · January 28th, 2003, 05:48 PM

I thought i'd give my 2 cents. I knew I wanted an xl1s after i borrowed one from my friend for a shoot i had. I don't know if i would have actually bought one unless i had found this site. It'd be coold if Canon sent Chris a camera for free. It'd be nice if they sent me one too but $3,200 is a SMALL price to pay for such a beautiful camera. look at the price JVC charges for the DV-500. I've used it and I like the xl1s a lot better. I think we've all made out like bandits haha

Chris Hurd · January 28th, 2003, 06:01 PM

Man, you guys certainly dug up an old thread. Canon USA did something better than giving me a camera... they occasionally invite me to work their trade show booths. These are wonderful opportunities to meet people, go places and stay up to date on the technology, plus it's an excellent crew to work with. I highly value the experience, to me it's worth much more than a camcorder. So fellows, you can call off the dogs... CUSA is taking good care of me with these trade show gigs... I only wish there were more of 'em! Many thanks,

Frank Granovski · January 28th, 2003, 06:03 PM

Canon should give Chris a XL1S and a GL2! Why just ask for the XL1s? Look at all the work Chris has done for Canon! If it were not for this site, people would be asking, "What's a XL1? What's a Canon?" +_+

Rik Sanchez · January 28th, 2003, 07:17 PM

Come on Chris, you are being too humble, You are the Man! without you lots of us wouldn't have bought a Canon.

In a cool coincidence, while reading this thread, I just got a call from the Canon service center and my XL-1 is ready to be picked up, had it cleaned and tweaked(very noisy playback and bad mike sound), and hopefully, you will get a new(Canon, is a good condition USED-DEMO XL-1s too much to part with?) XL-1s
the same way I'm picking up my much loved XL-1, Free of charge.

A little off the subject, Canon Service Center rocks, got the drum assembly changed in 5 days, this time whatever they did took 7 days, that's from when I drop it off to when I pick it up, the service techs know how much our cameras mean to us, if THEY were in charge they'd give Chris an XL-1s.

BTW, what did Canon do with the 2 XL-1s that Soderberg used on his movie? I'm sure they didn't sell them, are they sitting on a shelf in some back room, did some showroom get two more demo models? If Canon can't part with a new XL-1s, then can they at least give Chris one of the XL-1s that Soderberg used, that would be cool. And while they are at it, just give him both, and he can hold a lottery and one other DVinfo member can receive the other XL-1s.

I'm off to pick up my XL-1 from the shop, one other idea, if the email campaign doesn't work, we could also ALL fax a message to the powers that be, I'm sure that several hundred faxes from all over the world will get some attention, I got my fax machine ready to go.

Nathan Gifford · January 28th, 2003, 07:38 PM

He Chris, if Canon wants a wrangler over here sometime...

Chris Hurd · January 28th, 2003, 08:27 PM

Of the Soderbergh cameras, at least one was autographed on the tape transport door and went "on tour" to most of the U.S. tradeshows all last year, displayed under a locked glass case like some trophy (it was after all Canon's trophy cam). CUSA considers it a prized possession, and I think it has a place of honor somewhere on the Marketing V.P.'s shelf.

The other Soderbergh camera may have been given to Steven, although I'm not sure about that.

Rik Sanchez · January 29th, 2003, 08:29 AM

What a waste, those cameras should be in the hands of someone who wants to create beautiful images. Too bad there isn't a SPCC, Society for the Prevention of Cruelity to Cameras, we could get those Marketing V.P.'s locked up so they couldn't harm anymore cameras.

Ivan Hedley Enger · January 29th, 2003, 06:08 PM

Chris seemed almost embarrassed because we dug up this thread. Why am I not surprised? It´s of course because he is just as humble as we all think he is.

Don´t be embarrassed, Chris, because you do deserve all these nice words you get on the board and you really deserves a new Canon XL1s from Canon. I am glad to hear that you highly values the experience and good care from Canon when you occasionally are invited to work in their trade show booths. But, even then you are doing a very valuable job for them.

I still am waiting to see what Steve can tell us about the response from last year, but if Canon don´t want to give him a camcorder, I think we should do something about it ourselves.

Think about it......... Today we are more than 2700 members. A new Canon XL1s in the USA costs about $3,200, according to Tim. That is just a little more than $1 from each of us. I guess that all of us would like to show our appreciation for Chris by giving him, say $1.5 from each of us. With a good price from Canon (at least they should be able to give a good price for the camcorder), he could even get some gadgets as well.

Most of us have probably spent thousands of dollars on video equipment, so I guess this isn´t much to ask for? What do you all think about this?

Ivan

Rob Lohman · January 29th, 2003, 06:30 PM

I've thought a while about what to write down here.... the best
thing I can come up with is that I think Chris' post said it all. If
I know Chris a bit I don't think he is being too humble... I'm not
trying to step on any toes here because we ALL love this place
and the offers being made are very very generous, don't get
me wrong. But it might also be a possibility that someone doesn't
"wants"/"needs" such things.... Again this is a difficult things to
write without hurting some peoples feelings perhaps, I hope I
don't. I'm just trying to say that I think we must be a bit carefull
as to where to go and where not... This is ofcourse my very
personal opinion and I hope no-one is "offended" by it....

Thanks for taking the time to read this!

Edward Tune · January 30th, 2003, 12:52 AM

Come on Canon! You DO NOT want to see a bunch of prosumers 'en mass'.... That many malcontents in one spot might cause a super critical mass causing a blow out of the space time continum. (Working on my screenplay skills, guys, just bare with me...)

Video at 11 in front of Canon Headquarters showing Chris NOT getting a free 'S'... to be aired nationwide... (or at least on the better streaming sites)

Dylan Couper · January 30th, 2003, 12:54 AM

Or Chris is holding out for an XL2! ;)

Ivan Hedley Enger · January 30th, 2003, 02:26 AM

Don´t worry Rob, I am not "offended" by your reply. I guess you know Chris better than many of us, and maybe you are right.

My suggestion was never ment to be a kind of charity, I don´t think Chris need that. Maybe Chris is a rich guy, what do I know? But, That´s not the point. What I do know, is that if I had spent a lot of my time doing what he has done for us, it would have been nice with this kind of appreciation. But, I would probably been a little embarrased myself. ; )

My suggestion was only forwarded because I was beginning to feel a little frustrated. Frustrated about the fact that nothing seemed to happen in this case. I still feel that we should give Canon a chance to do what they should have done a long time ago, I only wanted to make a suggestion for an alternative if they don´t.

Please forgive me Chris, if this is something that you really don´t "want"/"needs". It was certainly not my intention to offend you in any way. I seem to remeber you said in one of the threads a while ago that you wouldn´t mind having the opportunity to spend even more time for the community (something like that), but you had to work as well to make a living? The community have some sponsors so (at least I hope) you don´t have any expences running it. If the members of the community had given you an XL1s, it would just be like as we sponsored you as well. In our case we are getting much more than we give anyway.

Thanks for your reply Rob, but I still feel the same if Chris doesn´t mind.

Ivan

June 5th, 2002, 03:00 PM	#16
Bill Markel Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sicklerville, NJ Posts: 59	Count Me In Sooooo much of my decision to purchase the XL1S was based upon information found within this site. Keep up the great work Chris. Bill

January 28th, 2003, 12:39 PM	#18
Steve Clodfelter Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Golden, CO Posts: 43	Copy of an email I just sent to Steve Nunez for forwarding to Canon: "Canon--Give Chris Hurd an XL1S! He provides you with a great service by providing technical support, at no charge to you, to many of your XL1S owners. Do the right thing, both for you and for him! Give him an XL1S! Steve Clodfelter sclodfelter@att.net" Thanks, Chris! And thanks, Steve! __________________ Steve

January 28th, 2003, 05:48 PM	#19
Tim Joseph Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 35	I thought i'd give my 2 cents. I knew I wanted an xl1s after i borrowed one from my friend for a shoot i had. I don't know if i would have actually bought one unless i had found this site. It'd be coold if Canon sent Chris a camera for free. It'd be nice if they sent me one too but $3,200 is a SMALL price to pay for such a beautiful camera. look at the price JVC charges for the DV-500. I've used it and I like the xl1s a lot better. I think we've all made out like bandits haha __________________ =================== Scheezo Have Camera, Will Travel-

January 28th, 2003, 06:01 PM	#20
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Man, you guys certainly dug up an old thread. Canon USA did something better than giving me a camera... they occasionally invite me to work their trade show booths. These are wonderful opportunities to meet people, go places and stay up to date on the technology, plus it's an excellent crew to work with. I highly value the experience, to me it's worth much more than a camcorder. So fellows, you can call off the dogs... CUSA is taking good care of me with these trade show gigs... I only wish there were more of 'em! Many thanks, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 28th, 2003, 07:17 PM	#22
Rik Sanchez ChorizoSmells Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 424	Come on Chris, you are being too humble, You are the Man! without you lots of us wouldn't have bought a Canon. In a cool coincidence, while reading this thread, I just got a call from the Canon service center and my XL-1 is ready to be picked up, had it cleaned and tweaked(very noisy playback and bad mike sound), and hopefully, you will get a new(Canon, is a good condition USED-DEMO XL-1s too much to part with?) XL-1s the same way I'm picking up my much loved XL-1, Free of charge. A little off the subject, Canon Service Center rocks, got the drum assembly changed in 5 days, this time whatever they did took 7 days, that's from when I drop it off to when I pick it up, the service techs know how much our cameras mean to us, if THEY were in charge they'd give Chris an XL-1s. BTW, what did Canon do with the 2 XL-1s that Soderberg used on his movie? I'm sure they didn't sell them, are they sitting on a shelf in some back room, did some showroom get two more demo models? If Canon can't part with a new XL-1s, then can they at least give Chris one of the XL-1s that Soderberg used, that would be cool. And while they are at it, just give him both, and he can hold a lottery and one other DVinfo member can receive the other XL-1s. I'm off to pick up my XL-1 from the shop, one other idea, if the email campaign doesn't work, we could also ALL fax a message to the powers that be, I'm sure that several hundred faxes from all over the world will get some attention, I got my fax machine ready to go. __________________ ChorizoSmells Video Barrio Tamatsukuri, Osaka, JAPAN

January 28th, 2003, 11:56 AM	#17
Ivan Hedley Enger Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vestfold in Norway Posts: 103	Hi Steve, Excuse me, but I am just curious. Did you get many responses to your campaign for Chris? Did he ever get what he deserved, a new Canon XL1s? Ivan

January 28th, 2003, 06:03 PM	#21
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Canon should give Chris a XL1S and a GL2! Why just ask for the XL1s? Look at all the work Chris has done for Canon! If it were not for this site, people would be asking, "What's a XL1? What's a Canon?" +_+

January 28th, 2003, 07:38 PM	#23
Nathan Gifford Wrangler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tickfaw, LA Posts: 1,217	He Chris, if Canon wants a wrangler over here sometime... __________________ Nathan Gifford Southern Cyclist Magazine & Productions For quick answers try our Search! To see me and Rob Lohman click here

January 28th, 2003, 08:27 PM	#24
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Of the Soderbergh cameras, at least one was autographed on the tape transport door and went "on tour" to most of the U.S. tradeshows all last year, displayed under a locked glass case like some trophy (it was after all Canon's trophy cam). CUSA considers it a prized possession, and I think it has a place of honor somewhere on the Marketing V.P.'s shelf. The other Soderbergh camera may have been given to Steven, although I'm not sure about that. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

January 29th, 2003, 08:29 AM	#25
Rik Sanchez ChorizoSmells Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Osaka, Japan Posts: 424	What a waste, those cameras should be in the hands of someone who wants to create beautiful images. Too bad there isn't a SPCC, Society for the Prevention of Cruelity to Cameras, we could get those Marketing V.P.'s locked up so they couldn't harm anymore cameras. __________________ ChorizoSmells Video Barrio Tamatsukuri, Osaka, JAPAN

January 29th, 2003, 06:08 PM	#26
Ivan Hedley Enger Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vestfold in Norway Posts: 103	Chris seemed almost embarrassed because we dug up this thread. Why am I not surprised? It´s of course because he is just as humble as we all think he is. Don´t be embarrassed, Chris, because you do deserve all these nice words you get on the board and you really deserves a new Canon XL1s from Canon. I am glad to hear that you highly values the experience and good care from Canon when you occasionally are invited to work in their trade show booths. But, even then you are doing a very valuable job for them. I still am waiting to see what Steve can tell us about the response from last year, but if Canon don´t want to give him a camcorder, I think we should do something about it ourselves. Think about it......... Today we are more than 2700 members. A new Canon XL1s in the USA costs about $3,200, according to Tim. That is just a little more than $1 from each of us. I guess that all of us would like to show our appreciation for Chris by giving him, say $1.5 from each of us. With a good price from Canon (at least they should be able to give a good price for the camcorder), he could even get some gadgets as well. Most of us have probably spent thousands of dollars on video equipment, so I guess this isn´t much to ask for? What do you all think about this? Ivan

January 29th, 2003, 06:30 PM	#27
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I've thought a while about what to write down here.... the best thing I can come up with is that I think Chris' post said it all. If I know Chris a bit I don't think he is being too humble... I'm not trying to step on any toes here because we ALL love this place and the offers being made are very very generous, don't get me wrong. But it might also be a possibility that someone doesn't "wants"/"needs" such things.... Again this is a difficult things to write without hurting some peoples feelings perhaps, I hope I don't. I'm just trying to say that I think we must be a bit carefull as to where to go and where not... This is ofcourse my very personal opinion and I hope no-one is "offended" by it.... Thanks for taking the time to read this! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

January 30th, 2003, 12:52 AM	#28
Edward Tune ottotune Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: LAs Vegas, Nevada Posts: 43	Come on Canon! You DO NOT want to see a bunch of prosumers 'en mass'.... That many malcontents in one spot might cause a super critical mass causing a blow out of the space time continum. (Working on my screenplay skills, guys, just bare with me...) Video at 11 in front of Canon Headquarters showing Chris NOT getting a free 'S'... to be aired nationwide... (or at least on the better streaming sites)

January 30th, 2003, 12:54 AM	#29
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Or Chris is holding out for an XL2! ;)

January 30th, 2003, 02:26 AM	#30
Ivan Hedley Enger Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Vestfold in Norway Posts: 103	Don´t worry Rob, I am not "offended" by your reply. I guess you know Chris better than many of us, and maybe you are right. My suggestion was never ment to be a kind of charity, I don´t think Chris need that. Maybe Chris is a rich guy, what do I know? But, That´s not the point. What I do know, is that if I had spent a lot of my time doing what he has done for us, it would have been nice with this kind of appreciation. But, I would probably been a little embarrased myself. ; ) My suggestion was only forwarded because I was beginning to feel a little frustrated. Frustrated about the fact that nothing seemed to happen in this case. I still feel that we should give Canon a chance to do what they should have done a long time ago, I only wanted to make a suggestion for an alternative if they don´t. Please forgive me Chris, if this is something that you really don´t "want"/"needs". It was certainly not my intention to offend you in any way. I seem to remeber you said in one of the threads a while ago that you wouldn´t mind having the opportunity to spend even more time for the community (something like that), but you had to work as well to make a living? The community have some sponsors so (at least I hope) you don´t have any expences running it. If the members of the community had given you an XL1s, it would just be like as we sponsored you as well. In our case we are getting much more than we give anyway. Thanks for your reply Rob, but I still feel the same if Chris doesn´t mind. Ivan