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Old June 29th, 2004, 09:21 AM   #1
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Sony 24 P

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Sony Announces DCR-PC350 with 24 Frames Progressive Scan Effect for under $1,300

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...der-$1,300.htm

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Old June 29th, 2004, 09:40 AM   #2
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People give me a hard time about the JVC HD10u and then Sony puts 24p on a crappy Handycam? That's a slap in the face of all the PD-170 users! If I were a Sony PD-170 owner I'd raise hell with Sony.

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Old June 29th, 2004, 10:29 AM   #3
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sony 24 p

Now we have a camcorder with

2000 * 1500 pixel
progressive scan
24 p

the next year this will be

hdv that use a
1920 *1080 pixel
24 25 30 p or 50 60 i

and a new compression chip

what you think about?


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Old June 29th, 2004, 10:38 AM   #4
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I'ts not 24p, but (30p - 6p) with 2:3:3:2 pulldown, which sounds absolutely awful! At least, according to the article, that's what it's doing.

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Old June 29th, 2004, 11:35 AM   #5
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It's nice to see Sony making the effort to grab some indie filmmakers and enthusiats interested in 24p recording, an excellent 16X9, and Zebra patterning... but to put it on model that also includes their "Easy Mode", Electronic Stabilization, no manual shutter control, no true aperature readings, manual controls through the LCD, and put that in a matchbook cam is very frustrating (in a cam with those functions do we really want it to be 20% smaller than the PC303?) . Sony is still too scared to lose the consumer buyers to make this model worthwhile to real filmmakers and enthusiasts. The true value of this model lies in the fact that the good features will probably come to the HC1000, and now other manufacturers are going to have to match it...they're callin' you out Pana, you'd better answer!
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Old June 29th, 2004, 12:06 PM   #6
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it's nice to see that you can have this kind of power in your pocket...i will certainly look for this when it comes out as it will suit my small camera needs just fine...

i'm sure new models from sony will be on there way...

it's also very refreshing to see a major name brand like sony reduce the price of an upgrade to a good seller...i hope this trend continues as well
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Old June 29th, 2004, 12:13 PM   #7
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I agree, it's nice to see this 24p feature start to appear in consumer camcorders. It's only getting better!
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Old June 29th, 2004, 12:35 PM   #8
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For those that think you can't do anything worthwhile with this type of camera- look at " The Celebration ". Otherwise , let's wait and see - looks like it could be a good tool- no more-no less.
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Old June 29th, 2004, 01:59 PM   #9
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not is important what can you make with this camera

this is the begin of a something new

Sony will add this feature to all new camera

and probably Canon Jvc Panasonic too.

This is the last step in dv before hdv.

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Old June 29th, 2004, 03:42 PM   #10
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Hello- Would it be possible to save that discarded frame , to have 30p, or build a filter that reconstructs it ?Kurth
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Old June 29th, 2004, 04:15 PM   #11
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Not from the technical description - I don't think it's possible as it really does get thrown away! Perhaps the camera also has a 30p mode too?

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Old June 29th, 2004, 04:35 PM   #12
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Yeh - the camcorderinfo stuff doesn't count that out. that would be a swing vote as 30p , for me, would be better than 24. I never want to go to film. thanks for your response and keep up the cool tools !
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Old June 29th, 2004, 05:04 PM   #13
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Hey ya gotta start somewhere. This is the beginning of a 24p barrage I'll bet in the next couple months.

Bet this thing makes a nifty lil picture.

But I'm holding out for the big fish.
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Old June 29th, 2004, 05:57 PM   #14
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We seem to have several completely different threads going on this camera... Sony's press release does not mention 24p:
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The DCR-PC350 camcorder's new cinematic effect mode enables users to experience the thrill of recording and playing back film-like scenes on video. This effect automatically engages the unit's progressive and 16:9 wide modes, creating video with Hollywood-like color reproduction while recording at 30 frames per second.
http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/4994
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Old June 29th, 2004, 07:32 PM   #15
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I'd rather see Sony put 24p in the DSR350...
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