YouTube Announced Support for 4k! at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > The DV Info Network > Digital Video Industry News

Digital Video Industry News
Events, press releases, bulletins and dispatches from the DV world at large.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old July 9th, 2010, 04:54 PM   #1
Major Player
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Centreville, Maryland
Posts: 258
YouTube Announced Support for 4k!

This is not a joke.

"Today at the VidCon 2010 conference, [Youtube] announced support for videos shot in 4K (a reference resolution of 4096 x 3072), meaning that now we support original video resolution from 360p all the way up to 4096p."

Read the rest of the blog post here: YouTube Blog: What's bigger than 1080p? 4K video comes to YouTube

As of this writing, there are only 5 videos currently up. They are here...

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Sigh... Now I have to get a 4k projector just to watch my lolzcats.
__________________
http://twitter.com/tedmcneil
Theodore McNeil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 9th, 2010, 07:50 PM   #2
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Australia
Posts: 59
Looks like youtube is determined to prevent sites like vimeo getting a jump on them like what happened with HD.

Whats the cheapest 4k monitor/projector currently available retail?
Sam Tansey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2010, 02:57 AM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 220
720p is cleaner. Resolution means little if not backed up by massive bit rate.
Ryan Farnes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2010, 03:33 AM   #4
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 9,068
Quote:
Resolution means little if not backed up by massive bit rate
I just watched two 4k video's on youtube and I hardly saw the difference between 1080p and 4k, the 4k red footage displayed artifacts and I also see that it all comes down to used bitrate. showing 4k footage in it's native resolution but with limited bitrate has almost no advantage over 1080p footage. And once you crank up the bitrate your files will get huge and no-one with normal computers will be able to watch them.

Plus the fact that all youtube watchers have lcd screens that support max 1080p so what's the use? I actually can't see a reason why someone would publish at 4k for internet use?
Noa Put is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2010, 06:29 AM   #5
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Belfast, UK
Posts: 4,121
Some people just love bigger numbers, it's a rather pointless exercise given how these videos are going to be viewed. The film makers will have to up their game to make this more than a "wow I shot this 4k" line!
Brian Drysdale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2010, 08:04 AM   #6
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 3,012
I think it is an experiment in the future of delivery - it's still pretty beta, and it's not going to be perfect in its first incarnation - like all things that push the technical envelope, this too will change.

I don't see a need for Youtube 4K for the web as it exists today, either, but this won't be the same web 15 years from now, anymore than the web of 15 years ago (can you say 1995, AOL, text-based browsers?) resembles what we have today.
Meryem Ersoz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2010, 08:34 AM   #7
Major Player
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: KLD, South Africa
Posts: 983
Most monitors don't even support 4k yet, it's really quite pointless to watch 4K on a 1080P Monitor. Guess they jumped the gun.
Nicholas de Kock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2010, 10:43 AM   #8
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: San Mateo, CA
Posts: 3,840
Jumping the Gun vs. Pushing the Envelope. I don't see it as a loser for YouTube. It's just more R&D, and some good press and internet buzz. Win/Win in business terms.
Richard Alvarez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2010, 01:40 PM   #9
Major Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 795
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noa Put View Post
Plus the fact that all youtube watchers have lcd screens that support max 1080p so what's the use?
It's not 4k but plenty of people currently have 30" displays which support greater than 1080p. With the release of the iPhone 4 & it's 'retina display' hype I wouldn't be surprised to see a trend towards higher pixel densities in monitors over the next few years - even a 20" display at 300+dpi would be well over 4k resolution. As others have said - it's not about hitting the current target but doing R&D for what's coming down the line.
__________________
My latest short documentary: "Four Pauls: Bring the Hat Back!"
Evan Donn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2010, 01:45 PM   #10
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Belfast, UK
Posts: 4,121
It really depends on how close people are going to sit in front of their screens. If the screen is going to dominate as in the front row in a cinema, the higher resolutions make sense, but it's more like the back row much less so.
Brian Drysdale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2010, 04:03 PM   #11
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Wyckoff NJ
Posts: 65
Personally, I'd much rather them work on youtube Pro:

Longer time limits. Imposing ten minutes has done nothing to stop shows from being uploaded.
Pro account will allow for uploading of music files in videos, so no fear of deletion.

I'd say a $10 Pro account would match that of what vimeo has to offer.

I'd ditch YT altogether where it not for one thing. More eyeballs :).
__________________
www.vimeo.com/channels/PackingProtons youtube.com/WPLJTV
www.packingprotons.com Thanks!
Neil Vitale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 10th, 2010, 10:08 PM   #12
Trustee
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,771
I'm not sure if you meant $10 a month or $10 per year but if you did meant per year, I don't think that would cover the downloading of the original files. They'd have to do that to match Vimeo's service.
Paulo Teixeira is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 11th, 2010, 09:56 AM   #13
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 135
4k really?

Idk guys... I understand the point of pushing the envelope and what-not... but 4k? Really? I would think it would be a better move to focus on improving the mobile codec. Or at least figure out some way to download of the site like the previous guy said. Google Video has it... why not Youtube? This is the resolution equivalent of the Vuvuzuela button. Sure its funny, but useful?

And besides, downloading those must be such a pain in the a$$ in terms of speed... why bother? the 1080p will full screen or bigger for the majority of monitors.
Casey Krugman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 11th, 2010, 11:03 AM   #14
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Wyckoff NJ
Posts: 65
Oh, BTW, there IS a non official way to download videos..
Get firefox and look up easyyoutube video downloader. Not original file, but MP4 is next best thing...

And we do know youtube has this option....Users can re-download their own footage in the my video section...My guess is they do not offer this feature due to all the illegal show uploads.
__________________
www.vimeo.com/channels/PackingProtons youtube.com/WPLJTV
www.packingprotons.com Thanks!
Neil Vitale is offline   Reply With Quote
Old July 11th, 2010, 04:21 PM   #15
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 2,069
Specs are like crack and too many people in our business are crack addicts. For the foreseeable future, this spec means nothing.

Dan
Dan Brockett is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > The DV Info Network > Digital Video Industry News

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:54 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network