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Old December 15th, 2010, 02:56 AM   #31
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The posted images I've seen from it look rather good,

I imagine in practise a shooting Scarlet will be a bit longer when a couple of extra modules are clipped to the back to meet many people's requirements,

There was a $1k price increase to allow the high dynamic range feature to be used. $5,000 seems to be a figure that's been mentioned recently. Although, I suspect it really depends on the accessories you buy.

Hopefully RED will have built up a stock pile to meet the initial surge of orders.
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Old December 15th, 2010, 03:15 AM   #32
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....we can make a so-so background look quite good. To get great looking images with everything in focus can be a real artistic/time/money/location challenge...
Totally agree with this Jon! I can't imagine with a limited production budget, how we can shoot the scenes having too much crappy or junk in the background with 1/3-4" cameras like the Canon XF300/305 or Panasonic TM/SD700. Not that the cameras are too cheap or have sub-par IQ. We just have to blow the junk out of focus. The blurrier, the better!
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Old December 15th, 2010, 03:33 AM   #33
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Just be careful that you don't blur out the mise en scene; there could be important visual subtext lost in your blur. The art direction is an important part of a film.
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Old December 15th, 2010, 09:36 AM   #34
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Hopefully RED will have built up a stock pile to meet the initial surge of orders.
I'll be surprised if Scarlet is delivered in volume before 2012. $5K would be a good, aggressive price. But evaluating features, specs and price without a delivery date is likely meaningless.

I'm not even confident I can buy an Epic in 2011.
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Old December 15th, 2010, 09:51 AM   #35
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Yes, they're not too good at getting product out there in quantity, the new V/F currently seems to be slow in being delivered.
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That's the problem with RED, because they're small, and also a lot of their suppliers/vendors went out of business.

I've read that RED is raising the price on Scarlet by about $1,000, so I'm guessing it'll cost anywhere from $6,000 to $10,000.

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Old December 15th, 2010, 10:48 AM   #37
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Has Epic actually shipped to some Red One owners? Or are the units just going to high profile projects?
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I think the "tattoo" program users are getting it first.

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Old December 15th, 2010, 11:36 AM   #39
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Interesting to see how long customers in the lower price band will be prepared to wait before delivery compared to those people in the higher price band, Traditionally the former has been available pretty much off the shelf, where as the latter has traditionally had an element of ordering and then some waiting time in the purchasing process.
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Old December 15th, 2010, 01:18 PM   #40
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A significant milestone will be Epic "in the wild"; Shipped to people they don't know personally who are not doing high profile projects. As far as I can tell that hasn't happened yet.

I am optimistic about Epic and Red.
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