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Old April 28th, 2011, 04:24 AM   #16
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Re: James Cameron Buys 50 RED EPICs

He might be trying to film "Schrödinger's cat"...
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He might be trying to film "Schrödinger's cat"...
very clever. clearly you were not educated in the American public school system.

50 Epics must be for rental right? What is Peter Jackson doing with his 30? He can't possibly be using 15 3D rigs on a single movie can he?
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Old April 28th, 2011, 11:12 AM   #18
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very clever. clearly you were not educated in the American public school system.

50 Epics must be for rental right? What is Peter Jackson doing with his 30? He can't possibly be using 15 3D rigs on a single movie can he?
I reckon he would be. The behind the scenes of LOTR showed that he often had up to 4 units filming at the same time around NZ. Each unit was covering 3 or more angles at the same time.

Couple of spares would do it. Besides Peter Jackson is very big on behind the scenes footage - who knows he might film that on Epics while he's at it...
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Old April 28th, 2011, 03:41 PM   #19
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Hardware means little...
Please have Jim spend some money on a real story for his next film.
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Old April 28th, 2011, 04:19 PM   #20
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Hardware means little...
Please have Jim spend some money on a real story for his next film.
Ditto. I'd rather he used Mini-DV and concentrated on a script as good as some of his early work.
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Old April 28th, 2011, 04:35 PM   #21
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He might be trying to film "Schrödinger's cat"...
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very clever. clearly you were not educated in the American public school system.
That, or a fan of "the eels" & Nova. In "Parallel Worlds, Parallel Lives" , Schrödinger's kitty played a part in Spock getting a goatee

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50 Epics must be for rental right? What is Peter Jackson doing with his 30? He can't possibly be using 15 3D rigs on a single movie can he?
I'm guessing Jimmy boy as so much money, he is setting them up as security cameras around his house. Hard to spend that much money at once.
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Old April 28th, 2011, 11:34 PM   #22
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I think 15 paired RED Epic-Ms on The Hobbit also include 2nd unit, etc

Interesting that Pace and Cameron also met and struck a partnership with ARRI, because I was going to comment that Cameron finally found the ideal camera to shoot 3D in RED, but then there's ARRI!

I do know that a local South Florida rental house I've worked with in the past is ordering a RED Epic, but currently have an ARRI Alexa that gets rented a lot.

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Hardware means little...
Please have Jim spend some money on a real story for his next film.
Oh come on... you didn't like Pocahontas in space?
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Old May 1st, 2011, 04:08 PM   #24
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Yeah, it was so bad it only grossed a billion dollars world wide.
And then there's that hack that wrote Star Wars.
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I guess it helps if what's about to happen is flagged up 15 minutes in advance, "Terminator" is much smarter.
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Yeah, it was so bad it only grossed a billion dollars world wide.
it was closer to 2 billion actually and working near 3 when you include merchandise, dvd, tv ...

To put it into perspective, Paul Blart: Mall Cop made a quarter billion dollars and There Will Be Blood made a "paltry" $75M. There is obviously an inverse relationship between the quality of a story and its marketability. James Cameron has discovered this formula.
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50 Epics must be for rental right? What is Peter Jackson doing with his 30? He can't possibly be using 15 3D rigs on a single movie can he?
The fact is, changing lenses on a 3D rig is time-consuming, so having multiple rigs with different lenses already lined up is going to be cost effective - even given the price of those Epics and Atom rigs. Also, by the time you factor in A + B cameras and first, second and possibly third units, you get to 25 rigs pretty quickly.
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Plus you need spare bodies in case a camera fails.
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When they did Star Wars Episode 2, they only had six F900 cameras, and their insurance company (and probably the completion bond company, if they had one) made them bring 35mm film cameras as a backup, especially in the desert for those scenes.

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Old May 5th, 2011, 03:24 AM   #30
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very clever. clearly you were not educated in the American public school system.

50 Epics must be for rental right? What is Peter Jackson doing with his 30? He can't possibly be using 15 3D rigs on a single movie can he?
He will use all of them and have back up units ready and waiting, the price of Epic M's is still bugger all compared to other cameras especially the costs related to film. I'm sure Jim gave him a good deal on them too as it's pretty good publicity for RED too. I just wish the general public could start getting their hands on them.
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