DSLR News Shooter | BIRTV 2011 – China’s answer to Red? The Kinefinity KineRAW S35 digital cinema camera for US$8000
China's answer to Red / Alexa? Either way more competition can only be a good thing (and it will probably be available before Scarlet)! Website is here: KineRAW-S35 Seemingly they also have an S16 sized camera with CCD sensor, and an S8 sized camera with a CMOS sensor (both with exchangeable lens mounts) in addition to the S35 CMOS camera. All still vaporware at the moment I guess. |
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Not to sound negative, but until any of these cameras are shipping, I ignore them. There have been so many (non-working, or barely working) prototypes and announcements of affordable, film-like digital cameras (stretching back before RED), that I just end up tuning them out.
It sounds cool, but I like that I can get a Sony NEX-FS100 with a Super 35mm (with a basic zoom lens) for around $5500. Heath |
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I agree with Heath.
Too many announcements without any concrete action. Hope there are more competitors to Red. Lets wait for the sleeping giant to wake up (read Canon). Cheers, Sabyasachi |
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JVC is developing a 4K camera, too.
Heath |
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I've got the FS100 with basic zoom lens. It is one freakin sweet camera.
Can't believe you can get it for the price it is. Course, I hope everyone DOES keep coming out with 'cheap' super 35 cameras. Competition is how we got the AF100 and FS100 in the first place. I showed the FS100 to a friend of mine the other day. I am helping him edit a film, as he is an older guy who hasn't really used NLE's before. He used to shoot on 35mm film in LA. When he saw the image the FS100 put out he was literally flabbergasted. He was telling me how lucky I was to live and work with all this new technology. I'd have to say he is right..... |
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Check out this comparison with the AF100, 5D and F3, candle light, from Moving Picture in Ft. Lauderdale:
Moving Picture Electronic Services Presents: Producer's Cheatsheet August, 2011; MPES Camera Test heath |
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It's nice to know that the Sony F3 is better in candlelight than the Canon 5D but considering that it costs about 10X the price perhaps that is to be expected. Does it really look 10X better?
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Well, Canon is always fashionable late to every party. You cant be sure of what it will be or when it will be released, but you can be almost guaranteed one thing with Canon: it will be the most expensive item in its class. |
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They're basically doing different things. |
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A decent F3 package costs around $20,000, the 5D Mk II (still with a great, big sensor) costs around, what, $2000 without a lens? The Sony FS100 is affordable because it likely lacks features the F3 has, and it's NXCAM, which is more compression. XDCAM EX technology ain't cheap.
Heath |
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A 5D is $2.5k at B & H, but it still needs accessories to make it suitable as video camera, which would still put the F3 in at roughly 6 times the cost. It really depends on the package on either camera.
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There are also limits between the two that you need to take into consideration. I'm more inclined to rent something like the F3 vs. buying, but that's due to me not being a full time filmmaker or video guy.
Heath |
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Yes, it really depends on what use it for. If your market is at the F3 level, it has a lot of bang for bucks, comparing favourably with much more expensive cameras.
Perhaps the FS100 is the one that the 5D has to compete with, and the costs do start getting close when add in the accessories. It could depend on if you also want to use your video camera as a high end stills camera, but are prepared to compromise on the video. |
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I'm looking at a chart right now, and the two DSLRs with the biggest sensors (and are relatively "affordable") are the 5D and the Nikon D3S, both around 36 x 24 mm.
Heath |
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