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Old September 13th, 2011, 12:46 AM   #31
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Re: F65 for $65k

Sony seem to be putting a lot of R & D into CMOS.

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Old September 13th, 2011, 10:45 AM   #32
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Sony seem to be putting a lot of R & D into CMOS.
Indeed. At their recent semiconductor business meeting (Sony Global - Semiconductor Business Meeting 2011), they basically said "We pwned CCD, now we're gonna pwn CMOS." And from what I've seen so far, they are definitely bringing their A game. They've always made nice digicam and camcorder sensors, but their new CMOS sensors are really quite amazing. The chip they made for Nikon's D7000 a year ago is really quite amazing -- almost 14 stops of dynamic range. Canon, in contrast, hasn't improved their DSLR dynamic range very much at all in the last decade -- their newest chips are still plagued by the same pattern noise problem that existed in the original D30. 9 stops vs 14 stops is a huge difference (like slide vs print film).

I just hope that Canon wont give up entirely and close their entire sensor operation and start buying Sony chips. The more competition the better, but so far, Sony is just crushing them all. (On sensors at least. The rest of the camera still leaves a lot to be desired.)
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Old September 14th, 2011, 12:16 AM   #33
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If you download the pdf from the link above. it states that the grid is 8K, not the output.

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Old September 14th, 2011, 01:00 AM   #34
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I know. The whole assertion that Sony is telling a bald-faced lie and claiming the F65 is an 8K RGB image camera is just way off base. Not only did Sony not once at the DGA theatre event claim that the image has 8K resolution, but the whole "4K is Just the Beginning" and "4K and Beyond" bylines are not talking about the image having 8K of resolution. They are about Sony's vision and road map for image acquisition:

"4K is just the beginning
The F65 exceeds the resolution of any previous digital motion picture camera (as of August 2011), the result of a remarkable Sony Super 35 image sensor. Sony has been developing semiconductor image sensors since 1973 and manufacturing commercial quantities since 1985. Through all the decades, our design goal has always been to match the photographic quality of 35mm film. But now we're setting our sights even higher: to surpass the limits of human vision. The F65 image sensor is the first of this new breed. "

I'm not saying it's a capital offense to accuse Sony of blatantly lying; I just hope that assertion has been put to rest.
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