36 Mbps JVC PX10 $899

[Dom Stevenson]

This thing looks amazing. The lines between consumer, prosumer and professional seem to get more blurred by the day. I'm looking for a new camera to go with my 5d mkii and while the xf100 is still the main contender, new camera's at half the price keep turning up that make me think again.

[Zach Love]

Dom Stevenson: "The lines between consumer, prosumer and professional seem to get more blurred by the day."

I agree in the quality of the image, but the biggest difference is still having professional controls & a professional user interface. I want my video camera to have a Preset / A / B white balance toggle switch. A Low / Med / Hi gain toggle switch. TC control... etc. etc. etc.

For professionals it is great that we can now get cheap consumer / prosumer cameras to use as a B cameras to cut with our main cameras. It is also great that people with limited buget, but endless creativity, can create professional looking products, without the cost barrier to get into the professional line of equipment.

But I think there is always going to be a very not-blurred hard line between the cameras sold at Best Buy & the cameras for professionals that cost more than the average new car.

[Steve Nunez]

Craig Yanagi do you know anything about this camera that you can speak of?
Does anyone know when it will be on store shelves........I haven't seen that info anywhere and was wondering if someone here caught that info?

I found a Vimeo clip where the user had a Japanese version and while the video was very impressive in detail capture, I did notice highlight clipping and chromatic aberrations- sad!

I did however find this site that had a review of the already released Japanese version.....I think it is identical to the US version (unconfirmed);
http://en.akihabaranews.com/91704/re...ight-direction
(I hope linking to an offsite review is not in violation of this forums rules- Mr. Hurd please remove if so, and accept my apologies.)

[Dylan Couper]

Review says 640x480 @ 300fps. That's pretty decent for web delivery.

[Prech Marton]

Yeah, but many people (me too) still wait for 720p minimum.

[Dylan Couper]

Why wait? You can get what you want for only $13,000 more right now! ;)

[Prech Marton]

Yes of course :P

[Tom Bostick]

it would sell like hotcakes if it had 720p/300fps

[Dylan Couper]

If anyone made a 720p 300+fps camera even under $5000 it would sell like beer at a hockey game.

[Prech Marton]

I hope we can get it in 2 years!

[Steve Nunez]

I think it's coming.....the demand is there.....someone will make it...wouldn't surprise me if it were JVC seeing as to how they like to innovate and sell pioneering cameras!
JVC was first on the scene with their JVC HD10U's way back when HD first hit the consumer marketplace!
Casio may do it as well as they seem to like to market "high speed" cameras.

[Mikko Topponen]

Originally Posted by Zach Love

I want my video camera to have a Preset / A / B white balance toggle switch. A Low / Med / Hi gain toggle switch.

What the? Those are some of the most silliest things about regular videocameras. The only way to change gain is to go into the menu, set 3 (!!) presets and then switch between those presets with a toggle switch.

Who designs these? Compared to a DSLR where it is extremely easy to change ISO or WB. It is about 5x more work for even professional cams.

[Dylan Couper]

Steve... Fujifilm has made a couple of highspeed camera attempts too, though I'd put a beer on it being Casio that 720p first in a still camera, followed by JVC in a real video camera.

Unless of course Red ever delivers a Scarlet, which may do 120fps in HD. Though 120fps doesn't have the wow factor. 400-600 is what I'm looking for.

[Zach Love]

Originally Posted by Mikko Topponen

What the? Those are some of the most silliest things about regular videocameras. The only way to change gain is to go into the menu, set 3 (!!) presets and then switch between those presets with a toggle switch.

Who designs these? Compared to a DSLR where it is extremely easy to change ISO or WB. It is about 5x more work for even professional cams.

This has been the standard since the first time I picked up a Betacam, so it has been working for a lot of people for a long time. Though mostly I guess because historically gain=bad, so L/M/H really stands for "Off / Bad / Worse." So I learned to & I prefer to set my gain to the presets of "bad & worse" that I'll tolerate for the shoot I'm on & hope that I don't need to use them as gain is always the last resort.

DSLRs are designed for a different shooting style. The larger chips are more forgiving to high ISO settings, so it makes sense that you'd want easy access to change those settings.

Video cameras are getting "cleaner" gain settings, so maybe it'll change as better cameras come out.

As for white balance, I think the Preset / A / B is nearly. Only that would be nice is easier manual white balance shifting with out going into a menu.

[Glen Vandermolen]

Originally Posted by Dylan Couper

If anyone made a 720p 300+fps camera even under $5000 it would sell like beer at a hockey game.

As long as it's Molson, eh.