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Old January 9th, 2013, 07:21 PM   #31
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+1 Chris.
And also manual control in the high Speed modes.
Neither Hero Black nor the LX7 and and variants allow for manual shutter in 120fps

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What are the primary questions about this camcorder? I would assume we'd all like to know what the recorded resolutions are at the various frame rates... what else?
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Old January 9th, 2013, 08:05 PM   #32
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I believe this camera is squarely aimed at such as coaches in the sports world whose prime interest is analysing technique via slo-motion without spending too much money ...
Spot on, David. For example, every golf professional in the world should want one of these to analyse their student's golf swing, so long as JVC provides adequate shutter speeds to eliminate any motion blur on the club head. And with the wi-fi streaming the image directly to the pro's iPad or Android tablet, the pro can draw arrows or make annotations on the screen to fully illustrate the concept to the student.

JVC have obviously surveyed this sports market very thoroughly and provided a comprehensive solution which should be a great seller for them. Provided the range of shutter speeds are adequate to eliminate motion blur.

But I guess that any video professional might be tempted by a $1,000 camera that promises high frame rates, even if it's a sports camera!
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I'm left wondering why camera manufacturers continue to bother limiting cameras this way. I see the 50/60 switch as a competitive feature that would influence my purchase.
I agree Gints and it should be the standard these days, but marketing depts have different ideas sadly. :(

I hope image quality beats the Sony PJ760.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 09:15 AM   #34
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Any idea what the bit-rate and resolution is for the high speed modes?
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Old January 10th, 2013, 09:46 AM   #35
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I'll try to find out as much as I can... I'm seeing a JVC rep today, but that's here in Texas, and this camera is at CES, most likely along with the only JVC staff that can answer questions about it... but we'll see.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 10:29 AM   #36
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Keep in mind, guys, this camera is a consumer camera. Some of you are asking for the moon and the stars. It won't have all the bells and whistles a pro camera will have. It's under $1,000, you get what you pay for.
Was that enough cliches for ya? :-)

I'm sure it will be a very good camera, but it won't be replacing FS700s in the professional world. Well, maybe in a few circumstances.

So far, it sounds like a camera I'd like to own, But we'll have to wait on the specs.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 10:56 AM   #37
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And even when we know all the specs, we need to see how they translate into real life performance. Will the PX100 live up to its promise? Would be great, if it does, but as Glen said, it's a small consumer camcorder, not full-size broadcast gear. Better not expect miracles.
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Old January 10th, 2013, 05:25 PM   #38
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So this afternoon I had a face-to-face with my local area JVC pro market rep, and he confirmed that it is indeed a consumer product piece that's handled by a different part of the company. I got the name of the right contact, but we have to wait for the dust to settle from CES... those guys will be sobering up and flying home tomorrow, but I'll find out more as soon as I can and let you know.

I agree, we really can't expect much for $1000 but let's see.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 03:31 AM   #39
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A few more facts are available now. According to the Japanese website "AV Watch", the PX100 has indeed the expected 10x zoom lens 29,7 - 297mm (35mm equiv.) and can shoot 600fps with a resolution of 320 x 176.
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Old January 11th, 2013, 08:01 AM   #40
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(Questions)

1 - Obviously the "framerate/bitrate/resolution" clarification
2 - From the limited photos, there doesnt seem to be any ND filters built in, but some clarification on that or details on other light control for this interesting f1.2 lens would be nice!
3- Battery concerns especially at highest setting with wi-fi smartphone control active,etc...

I know those arent really "questions", more like topics Id like to see fleshed out. Also, 4K firmware upgrade? Just kidding.

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EDIT: Chris' last post caught my eye after posting this. I thought this was part of JVC's pro line (maybe the name "Procision" threw me off). Being a consumer cam, prob cant hope for too much regarding NDs and high rez/high framerates... We'll see!

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Old January 11th, 2013, 08:21 AM   #41
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Indeed... see this: av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130111_581392.html

This was a cool idea, but the HFR res just isn't there.

I think the whole idea behind this thing is to show immediate slow-motion playback on a tablet, for which the low resolution will easily suffice. Looks like it's not intended to go much further than that. It's a "coach cam," just like the press release says.

More photos at link above...
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Old January 11th, 2013, 04:51 PM   #42
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Re: Procision JVC GC-PX100 Camcorder announced at CES2013

But can't it do HD video at 120fps?
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Old January 11th, 2013, 04:58 PM   #43
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Good question -- and I doubt it. As fps goes up, res comes down. Maybe standard def. 720x480 at 120fps? Hmm.

Looks like it's already available for pre-order:
JVC GC-PX100 Full HD Everio Camcorder GC-PX100 B&H Photo Video

B&H lists a few specs:

Full HD 1920 x 1080p Recording (probably at 60p only, but we'll find out);
Capture 12MP Still Images;
Back-Illuminated 12MP CMOS Sensor;
Built-In Wi-Fi;
SC/SDHC/SDXC Memory Card Slot (answers that question);
29.5mm F1.2 Wide Angle Lens (answers another question: 29.5mm at the wide end);
10x Optical Zoom & 16x Digital Zoom (answers another question: 295mm at the long end);
3" Touch Panel LCD;
Optical Image Stabilizer with A.I.S.;
K2 Audio & Zoom Microphone.
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Old January 13th, 2013, 11:08 AM   #44
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So the Lumix LX7 can do HD video at 120fps? And it's half the price? Hmm...
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Old January 13th, 2013, 06:46 PM   #45
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And the LX7 can also do this, in-camera:


(time-lapse at 108060p).
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