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Old February 5th, 2013, 08:24 PM   #16
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Re: What cameras did the Sundance entries use?

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I counted nine RED Epics, but not a single Scarlet...? Wow.

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Old February 6th, 2013, 04:50 AM   #17
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After seeing 21 films at this Sundance, I was surprised how many were still shot on film.
Interesting factoid - the next Spider-Man movie will be shot on film.
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Old February 6th, 2013, 11:36 AM   #18
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Talent is more important than tools.

I'm guessing the the people using iPhones & GoPros have just as much (or more) story telling talent than the guys using a Red or Arri.
Let's be careful here...

Yes, talent IS important.

Writing, directing, cinematography and editing.

But frankly, in MY not-so-humble opinion, if your story is strong enough, you are showing contempt for your viewer by not using the best AVAILABLE tools to tell it.

I've seen some interesting documentaries that had great content but something as simple as the audio or framing being TERRIBLE has thrown the entire viewing experience off for me.

Not bothering to involve the right people to make decisions around quality that you are unable to make is arrogant and short-sighted.

The BEST films are the ones made by a group of talented and totally "bought-in" people who are passionate about the story or the message. Does everything need to be shot in 4k on an Epic? No, but deliberately shooting on an iPhone with the built in mic shows contempt for the viewer or laziness on the part of the "director".

Trade sweat equity with other film makers - you shoot mine, I'll edit yours. Whatever it takes.

The whole concept of the high quality "zero-budget" or "micro-budget" film is absolutely flawed. There WAS a budget - contra or sweat equity. In Vancouver, LOTS of films are made without paying for crew. The best of them are when groups of people get together on their days off to systematically work through the collective's "to shoot" list.

Again, I help you today, you help me next week.

COMPLETELY acceptable - it's called contra. A reciprocal agreement.

The Craigslist phenomena of Friday night crew calls for DoPs WITH CAMERA and sound techs for noon Saturday crew call is absolutely flawed.

Good people, good story, good planning.

And don't forget EXCELLENT promotion. Facebook is only ONE TINY STEP in your marketing plan...

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Old February 26th, 2013, 09:20 AM   #19
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Well it's a nice idea Shaun, but in my experience there are a lot of "something for nothing" merchants out there. I remember editing a short for a guy and putting serious hours in. It didn't occur to him to capture the 13 hours of footage on his own FCP system before handing it over to me. After a couple of weeks of him dropping by my place i had to tell him to go and buy some effing coffee and biscuits. That was his sole contribution to my weeks of work. About 2 pound fifty.
After that i shot and edited a music video for a guy and he later asked me if i wanted to BUY a 10 quid bag of weed off him. I nearly fell off my bar stool!
Those days are gone, and i'd have to absolutely love the person and their project to get involved these days, but it's still a good point. There are people collaborating and doing great things, but you need to be careful who you're getting involved with.

Regarding gear, there's no doubt - and many examples- of low gear budget going a long way. And vice versa.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 09:48 AM   #20
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So Dom...did you buy the bag of weed?
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