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Old April 19th, 2013, 10:38 AM   #151
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#No XLRs. So you have to use some kind of juicedLink type mixer (suggesting juicedLink due to lower cost).
Or you could pony up $6 and just change the cable. I already have dozens in my recording studio as much of my outboard gear uses TRS connectors including high end units like the Manley Massive Passive.

LINK to cable Amazon.com: Monoprice 1.5ft Gold Plated 16AWG XLR Female to 1/4-inch TRS Male Cable: Musical Instruments
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Old April 19th, 2013, 11:17 AM   #152
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Innovators? This is a major for profit corporation.... not Kickstarter kids in their basement.
They have not really innovated anything, they have just copied what is out there smaller and cheaper.
Innovators need not be charity organisations nor small inventors. Was Apple innovative making the iPod? innovators build on what already exists. Picasso is still an innovator even though he used paint and canvas. Jimi Hendrix was an innovator using the same chords on the same type of guitar through the same amp that countless before him used...
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Old April 19th, 2013, 04:55 PM   #153
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Or you could pony up $6 and just change the cable. I already have dozens in my recording studio as much of my outboard gear uses TRS connectors including high end units like the Manley Massive Passive.

LINK to cable Amazon.com: Monoprice 1.5ft Gold Plated 16AWG XLR Female to 1/4-inch TRS Male Cable: Musical Instruments
I thought that the downfall of not having XLR outputs in the camera was mainly due to the fragility of the quarter inch connections?
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Old April 19th, 2013, 05:26 PM   #154
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The main difference is that XLRs are captive. 1/4" are not. I don't believe that it's a fragility thing; it's that the plug can come loose.

Any guitar player knows this. We wrap the cable inside the guitar strap for strain relief. Do that and a 1/4" plug is rugged enough for a punk band on stage. :)
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Old April 20th, 2013, 12:48 AM   #155
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Or you could pony up $6 and just change the cable. I already have dozens in my recording studio as much of my outboard gear uses TRS connectors including high end units like the Manley Massive Passive.

LINK to cable Amazon.com: Monoprice 1.5ft Gold Plated 16AWG XLR Female to 1/4-inch TRS Male Cable: Musical Instruments
It seems you are planning to plug in a microphone directly. And from where will you get phantom power?

XLR connectors are the defacto professional standards due to a reason. XLR connectors, apart from ensuring that microphone doesn't come out accidentally, also don't have the ability to loosen up and make noise.
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Old April 20th, 2013, 10:14 AM   #156
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It seems you are planning to plug in a microphone directly. And from where will you get phantom power?

XLR connectors are the defacto professional standards due to a reason. XLR connectors, apart from ensuring that microphone doesn't come out accidentally, also don't have the ability to loosen up and make noise.
Fair points, and I'll be the first to admit the 1/4" jacks aren't a perfect interface, but they're certainly workable. For things like interviews I typically use a wireless system that doesn't need phantom power and I also have a couple of outboard pre amps so this isn't an issue for me. My other 4k camera at 144mbps is overkill for interviews though and at 880+ mbps I'm not sure I'll ever use the BM for that purpose but in the event I do it will work with my rig. On the topic of audio I'm more concerned whether the new camera will have input metering which to me is far more critical than XLR jacks.
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