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Old February 3rd, 2014, 10:15 PM   #16
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The color space is 4:2:0. The codec emulates that of the Canon 5D Mk III.
Thank you for the clarification. Basically the same as XAVC-S 1080p60 then.
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Old February 4th, 2014, 03:18 AM   #17
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Gotta love that 20x lens. f1.6 at wide angle, and f3.0 at telephoto! The Fujinon Hts18 on my 790 is f1.4, even at full telephoto (according to the specs on B&H). With extender engaged, it's still only f2.8. The f-stop on these "broadcast" 1/3 lenses is the only thing I like about them.
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Old February 4th, 2014, 06:26 AM   #18
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Ah I wish this came out a year ago, would have gone for it over the HM600. HM600 is a great camera I just really wanted them to put it into the 750 body, looks like now they have!

Looks like they've basically made the HM600 lens removable and stuck it onto the 850. Shame it's not a constant F stop or at the very least only a slight drop, probably the only negative aspect this camera has carried over from the 600 series.

Great to see a broadcast bit rate, some sort of high frame rate would have been nice shame the FS700 is still the only sub 10k camera with this sort of feature. For sports having a big zoom range like the 600/850 with high frame rate would be great!
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Old February 4th, 2014, 10:28 AM   #19
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I wonder if they'll sell this w/o a lens. I'm guessing a lot of HM700 (HD100 / 200) owners might be interested in just the body.
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Old February 4th, 2014, 12:48 PM   #20
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If the streaming tech in these cameras are anywhere near cellular bonded-resilient, that's worth the entry price. Teradek Bond is over 3 grand. I was hoping B&H showed a lower "street" price, though.

BBC should have waited before they bought 500 JVCs last year. lol
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Old February 4th, 2014, 02:00 PM   #21
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On the JVC site there seems to be plenty of different lens available - so I'd guess the options will appear once initial orders are satisfied.
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Old February 4th, 2014, 06:10 PM   #22
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BBC should have waited before they bought 500 JVCs last year. lol
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I think it was stated that these were intended there as B-cameras, and for such as self-shooting by journalists - not the main cameraman's camera. Hence these being small, relatively cheap, but having the same XDCAM EX codec as the big cameras was the big selling point.

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Old February 5th, 2014, 12:08 AM   #23
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I think it was stated that these were intended there as B-cameras, and for such as self-shooting by journalists - not the main cameraman's camera. Hence these being small, relatively cheap, but having the same XDCAM EX codec as the big cameras was the big selling point.
I see, makes sense. Thanks.
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Old February 5th, 2014, 04:08 AM   #24
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I don't remember posting that? and it say 'lol' which as far as I know, I have never use in my life as I hate text speak, apart from on text!
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Old February 5th, 2014, 07:30 AM   #25
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I don't remember posting that?
You didn't - it was Tony, and I don't know how your name got crossed - I'll edit it! Sorry.
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Old February 5th, 2014, 09:07 AM   #26
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I don't remember posting that? and it say 'lol' which as far as I know, I have never use in my life as I hate text speak, apart from on text!
I saw the "mis-quote", but knew it was probably just an error. No harm, no foul.
Though you may hate to use it. LOL and a few other "text speak" has been a part of the English Dictionary for a couple years now.

FYI, LOL and OMG all added to the Oxford English Dictionary.
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Personally, these new cameras hit all the right buttons for me since I shoot a lot of sports. 20x zoom, 1080 60p, SDHC/XC dual card slots, and four-channel audio with stereo AUX in. The latter is a real treat as I often need to create highlight clips of games and it saves so much time commenting during play and then finding those segments on the NLE timeline by the waveform peaks. I only wonder if you can use the WIFI remote monitoring and streaming/upload features at the same time.
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Old February 5th, 2014, 09:42 AM   #27
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Wasn't LOL the bloke from 10cc? For a couple of years I used my old Betcam B4 lenses on an adaptor, and though with the X2 in you lost a lot of light, they were pretty good outside for the rare bit of sport I used to do. The only thing I don't like about the design is that mine live with the protective jackets on them, but almost every panel is velcro'd because there are controls and sockets everywhere - and in the dark, getting to the sockets is a bit of a faff - but unlike my colleagues, I stuck to the on the shoulder cameras, and have never regretted it. I was a slow convert to HD, and still, virtually all my output is on DVD (are you listening Mr Adobe?) so any move to 4X is going to be a long way off for me - I just don't need it.

BVE is in a couple of weeks, so maybe there will be one there to see?
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Old February 5th, 2014, 11:06 AM   #28
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BVE is in a couple of weeks, so maybe there will be one there to see?
According to this - GY-HM850 and GY-HM890 - JVC Professional Europe - the answer is a definite "yes".
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Old February 6th, 2014, 07:35 AM   #29
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Found this 16 Page Official JVC Brochure all about the new Camera:
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/CA...0131_final.pdf
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Old February 10th, 2014, 10:45 AM   #30
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Shame it's not a constant F stop or at the very least only a slight drop, probably the only negative aspect this camera has carried over from the 600 series.
Actually, the HM600 Series camcorders have the ability to manually control the iris. Please check and see that you've turned off the auto iris function. You'll find that you can keep f3.0 from front to back.

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