New Sony FS7 4K XDCAM at IBC 2014

[Dmitri Zigany]

Originally Posted by James Manford

Don't see why some of the FS700 users would want to move on to this.
Surely by now you've worked around the ergonomics of the FS700.
And if you're desperate for 4K then buy a o7Q?

For me, who hasn't worked out the ergonomics of the FS700 yet, the FS7 is really tempting.
I recently sold my EA50 and if I sold the FS700 as well, I could probably scramble to get the FS7.
If I keep the FS700 that would mean buying the 7Q, which I can afford with one drive, battery plate, simplest mounting solution and no FS700 codec. And then I would also not have any way to put it on my shoulder.

I'm not craving 4K, I want a better codec, 10bit and no edge contrast issues ;)

But I also want a small b-cam, so my option is keeping the FS700 and getting the A7s and hope to be able to afford the 7Q or Shogun down the road.
Seems like the Shogun will eventually support FS700 (and FS7, I presume) raw in the future:
News Shooter | IBC 2014 video: Atomos new Power Station and Shogun 4K update

The FS7 really stirred the beehive that is my brain ;)

[Shaun Roemich]

Originally Posted by Phil Bloom

Actually no...Alister of course had nothing to do with it as he is under NDA. I have numerous sources and the official name came through two days ago WITH an official photo.


P.S. I am a member here, just not a very active one anymore. :)

I was referencing the comments on your Blog (see below), Mister Bloom.

[James Manford]

Originally Posted by Dmitri Zigany

For me, who hasn't worked out the ergonomics of the FS700 yet, the FS7 is really tempting.
I recently sold my EA50 and if I sold the FS700 as well, I could probably scramble to get the FS7.
If I keep the FS700 that would mean buying the 7Q, which I can afford with one drive, battery plate, simplest mounting solution and no FS700 codec. And then I would also not have any way to put it on my shoulder.

I'm not craving 4K, I want a better codec, 10bit and no edge contrast issues ;)

But I also want a small b-cam, so my option is keeping the FS700 and getting the A7s and hope to be able to afford the 7Q or Shogun down the road.
Seems like the Shogun will eventually support FS700 (and FS7, I presume) raw in the future:
News Shooter | IBC 2014 video: Atomos new Power Station and Shogun 4K update

The FS7 really stirred the beehive that is my brain ;)

I'm that sort of person too that can't stand new camcorders coming out because I always get this itch to upgrade. And I always incur a loss.

Within two years I have gone from a EA50, to a FS100 and now to my FS700. And out comes this news.

Having said that, I am planning on getting a AX100 for 4K ... just for B cam and re-framing purposes.

[Monday Isa]

Originally Posted by Chris Hurd

Will post the pre-order links as soon as I get 'em, thanks!

I ended up going with DVinfo sponsor Abel Cine! Wanted to get in on first shipments!

[Gabe Strong]

Hmmm....maybe keep my FS700 as a B cam and try to figure out how to
buy the FS7 as an A cam? And then shoot in 4K with the FS7 and make
it look like I am shooting with 3 cams????? Oh, the options.......

[Dmitri Zigany]

Originally Posted by Gabe Strong

Hmmm....maybe keep my FS700 as a B cam and try to figure out how to
buy the FS7 as an A cam? And then shoot in 4K with the FS7 and make
it look like I am shooting with 3 cams????? Oh, the options.......

Sounds like a sweet plan!

My only way to afford the FS7 would be to sell my FS700.
But then I would be stuck with no decent b-cam. But a better camera for the future.

I only buy things when I can pay them at all at once. I live pretty much hand to mouth with very irregular income. I sold my EA50 so I think I could swing the FS7 just barely if I sold the FS700 as well.

And for someone who is always broke this is really big decisions ;)

Just not sure I wanna go through the chore of selling another camera either. Damn, that stuff takes time and energy sometimes!

[Barry J. Weckesser]

Originally Posted by Monday Isa

I ended up going with DVinfo sponsor Abel Cine! Wanted to get in on first shipments!

They are selling for MSRP - doesn't that seem high since they tend to discount cameras such as PMW 200 or are we seeing the old supply and demand equation?

For example the F5 is listed on the Sony site for $19,400 and both Abel Cine and B & H sell it for $3,000 less.

[Gabe Strong]

Dmitri,

Yeah, I actually run my business the same way. Cash only, I have never
once bought anything for my business on credit. I've had a pretty good year,
so if the camera was to come out before the years end, there is a small
possibility that it could be a 'tax time' business purchase to decrease
my tax burden. But I am not holding my breath on that happening.
I'll just continue to watch for news on it. In the meantime, my FS700
has been getting me a lot of business.

[Monday Isa]

Originally Posted by Barry J. Weckesser

They are selling for MSRP - doesn't that seem high since they tend to discount cameras such as PMW 200 or are we seeing the old supply and demand equation?

For example the F5 is listed on the Sony site for $19,400 and both Abel Cine and B & H sell it for $3,000 less.

Its the holding price for now. Dealers will be notified of street pricing on Monday. I was told if that pricing is lower which it is, I'll receive that price.

[Barry J. Weckesser]

On the CVP.COM (British) website the PXW-FS7K (with lens) is $11,704. Perhaps US street price will be the same or a bit lower?

[James Manford]

Yep, currently listed for £6,718.80 on CVP for the BODY ONLY version. That's not much more than a FS700 brand new.

[Brian Rhodes]

B&H LINK PXW FS7 $9999.00
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082825-REG/sony_pxw_fs7_compact_4k_xdcam_w_supr.html

Sony PXW-FS7 Compact 4K XDCAM Camera, Super 35 CMOS Sensor, with the New Servo Zoom E-Mount Lens FE PZ 28-135mm F4 G OSS $12599.00
Sony PXW-FS7 Compact 4K XDCAM Camera with Super 35 CMOS Sensor (Body-Only) $9599.00
http://www.adorama.com/searchsite/de...chinfo=PXW+FS7

[Barry J. Weckesser]

Hopefully those prices will change tomorrow as Sony announces street prices (see post from Monday Isa). On the 13K price for the FS7K(camera + Lens) we should expect at least 2 to 2.5K reduction (I hope).

[Barry J. Weckesser]

Originally Posted by Monday Isa

I ended up going with DVinfo sponsor Abel Cine! Wanted to get in on first shipments!

Just did the same thing (with Abel Cine). Did you opt for the FS7K (bundled lens) or just the body? They told me there is only one other person on that list (Body + lens) and now I am #2

[Barry J. Weckesser]

Abel Cine just posted street price for the PXW-FS7K (including lens) as $ 10,499.00!!!