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Old October 7th, 2016, 01:45 PM   #1
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New Sony A6500

Sony A6500

24.2MP APS-C Exmor CMOS Sensor
BIONZ X Image Processor
XGA Tru-Finder 2.36m-Dot OLED EVF
3.0" 921.6k-Dot Tilting Touchscreen LCD
Internal UHD 4K Video & S-Log3 Gamma
S&Q Motion in Full HD from 1-120 fps
5-Axis SteadyShot INSIDE Stabilization
Built-In Wi-Fi with NFC
4D FOCUS with 425 Phase-Detect Points
Up to 11 fps Shooting and ISO 51200



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Old October 7th, 2016, 02:15 PM   #2
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Some great stuff coming out!

I love the fact the A6500 and the Panasonic G85 will have in body stabilization.

All those old vintage manual lenses are just waiting to be mated to something like this for use in video. Very cool.
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Old October 7th, 2016, 02:41 PM   #3
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Let's hope they fixed the crop factor issue in 4K 30p by the time this comes out.

Edit: Nope. Look at the footnote in the Sony video:

For 24p: "Full pixel readout without pixel binning collects approx. 2.4 times* (6K equivalent) as much information as is required for 4K (QFHD: 3840 x 2160) movie output."

For 30p: * Approx. 1.6 times at 30p recording.

You'll still need a Metabones Speedbooster if you shoot primarily 30p.
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Old October 7th, 2016, 03:35 PM   #4
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Brian - very interesting news.

Although I’m not exactly a fan of using a still camera as a video cam (hard to get my head around it), what really interests me is that since the AX100 is coming up on being three years old, there would be the possibility that some of features might be incorporated in it’s update, such as:

Sensor system: 1" Exmor RS BSI CMOS Sensor
BIONZ X Image Processor (less noise than the current system)

AF system: Fast Hybrid AF System with 315 Points (0.05 seconds! )

Less rolling shutter on this camera. Ability to focus on subjects and defocus backgrounds. Wonder if the same capability will be available in the camcorder. If so, while not replacing, it’ll give a prime lens a run for the money.

Wi-Fi and NFC compatible. This opens the door to more possibilities. Monitor?

Looking forward to January when, hopefully, the AX100 update comes out. If it incorporates some of these specifications without some unintended “features” it will be a killer cam. Curious: When will the replacement for the X70 come along?

search for: “Sony Announces New Addition to Acclaimed Line of Cyber-shot® RX Cameras”
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Old October 7th, 2016, 03:45 PM   #5
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We can't be 100% certain the rolling shutter has been fixed cause all the demo shots were in controlled circumstances with shots designed to make it hard to tell the rolling shutter effect.

My experience with the a6300 was that it's as bad or worse than the HPX300.
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Old October 7th, 2016, 03:53 PM   #6
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I love the fact the A6500 and the Panasonic G85 will have in body stabilization
It remains to be seen how effective the inbody stabilization is, from what I have seen in sony a7s II videos the stabilization was not nearly as good as on the gx85, eventhough the a6500 has a smaller sensor Sony has not been able to come anywhere close yet to their boss stabilization on their small sensor videocamera's. Maybe the smaller the sensor the easier it is to stabilize it?
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Old October 7th, 2016, 05:34 PM   #7
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Over on Facebook and YouTube, lots of discussion and samples...

1. Still overheats

2. Tons of rolling shutter. Like 5D MKII levels of rolling shutter.

3. Still has Sony's awful colors.

Yawn. Sony is about 70% of the way to building a game changer here but they won't.
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Old October 7th, 2016, 07:00 PM   #8
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I love Sony and swear by there products but Canons colors always look better.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 11:59 AM   #9
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Ok, well, at least this topic is not overheating. Lets see, how the a6500 will perform in this matter after a few minutes :/
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Old October 8th, 2016, 11:25 PM   #10
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I love Sony and swear by there products but Canons colors always look better.
I used to love Sony cameras. I owned a TRV-900, a few Sony Hi-8 cameras, three Sony Betacam cameras, I rented several Digibeta, DVCAM and the F900 for years. Sony colors used to look good. But it seems as if over the past few years, Sony veered into this weird blue/magenta kind of skin tone and a weird 24p motion signature that I find distracting. The only newer Sony I have shot with that I though ended up with decent colors was the F55. All of the FS5, FS7, A7xxx models, the colors are pretty unpleasant. That's why I switched to Canon, much better skin tones, they make people look better, period.

Sony offers great features packs, good value for the money and incredible reliability. I just can't stomach the colors. Sony, fire your color engineers and hire some ex Canon engineers to come up with your color matrix. Then I would gladly switch back to Sony cameras, they are very appealing in some ways. Just fix the colors and the horrific menu navigation.
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Old October 9th, 2016, 02:16 AM   #11
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I was just about to grab an A6300, think I'll wait for this new one. Really wish 4:2:2 was a basic feature now with all cameras.
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Old October 9th, 2016, 09:41 AM   #12
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I'm a Canon shooter, and had hoped this would be the camera that would get me into 4K, but it looks like the touchscreen isn't for the focusing? WTH?

/really spoiled by focus tracking on Canon 70D
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Old October 9th, 2016, 09:42 AM   #13
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About the colors from recent Sony cameras, I suspect there must have been some reasons or trade-offs behind those somewhat off-putting colors. Increased light sensitivity, avoidance of bleeding reds in 8-bit 4:2:0 image or an attempt to filter out the near-red infrared light spectrum (so that black subjects with certain types of reflectivity still look black and not maroon, for example), all these come to mind.

You don't need a Canon camera to see what's wrong with the recent Sony colors. My holiday 4K camera, the $600 Panasonic FZ300's image has noticeably better skin tones AND overall colors than all the recent Sony cameras and camcorders I have been using such as the AX100, RX100IV and FS5. I have tried everything including presetting the WB, presetting the color temperature, WBing manually, tweaking picture/color profiles in the case of the RX100IV and FS5 etc. but still never have gotten the resultant color balance to look really right.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 11:12 AM   #14
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I'm a Canon shooter, and had hoped this would be the camera that would get me into 4K, but it looks like the touchscreen isn't for the focusing? WTH?

/really spoiled by focus tracking on Canon 70D
Not sure where you're seeing this, but Sony's website clearly shows touch focus, that's the primary feature of the touchscreen.

?6500 Premium E-mount APS-C Camera | ILCE-6500 | Sony US

As soon as Texas Media shows the a6500, I'm buying two. Despite others hatred of Sony colors, a few simple tweaks when grading gets a nice look, and if you don't want to shoot slog, the Cine gammas are nice, so is Autumn Leaves. To each his own though.

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Old October 12th, 2016, 03:32 AM   #15
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I can't see any headphone socket or mention of this, is there one?
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