Article: HDDVD Keys posted at Digg... at DVinfo.net

Peter Ferling · May 2nd, 2007, 11:15 AM

It was bound to happen sometime, (remember hackers wearing CSS decrytion code on their t-shirts)?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269645,00.html

Harrison Murchison · May 2nd, 2007, 06:01 PM

I think it's a bit ridiculous for people to expect everything for free.

Now if I broke into one of these Hackers homes, because I knew how to pick locks, and stole their computers. Would they be so eager to promote theft?

If HD DVD or Blu-ray were priced at $50 street I'd understand the anger and frustration. However they are priced from $16 up to the mid 30's. That's not exhorbitant IMO.

I cannot and will not support these bozos.

Peter Ferling · May 2nd, 2007, 06:33 PM

More importantly the people those "bozo's" are hurting is folks like us, the producers and content developers whom make a buck on such goods. Maybe you or I might or might not benefit directly for the sales of HD on disk, but we're part of the same family.

More and more of our economies are based on digital data, which are now under digital lock and key, and breaking it is just as unlawful as prying open a padlock and stealing the contents.

To cry foul at the 'big greedy corporations' and demand some god gifted share is insane. These same 'big greedy corporations' are handing out paychecks to employees whom go home and feed their families. Without receiving money in exchange for this hacked goods is less money for those paychecks.

In the end, we are only hurting ourselves.

Peter Jefferson · May 2nd, 2007, 06:38 PM

not advocating any activity here, however if it wasnt for piracy or porn, DVD wouldnt be where it is today at the costs in which we see it

Chris Hurd · May 2nd, 2007, 10:06 PM

Oh yes it would... just not as quickly perhaps.

The story isn't really about the hex code but the ensuing meltdown at Digg. Bizarre to say the least.

Aaron Burtle · May 2nd, 2007, 11:08 PM

Can you make a backup copy of an HD-DVD without that key?

Richard Leadbetter · May 3rd, 2007, 01:37 AM

No you can't.

My issue with HD DVD and Blu-ray is that I have two perfectly capable HD displays with DVI connectors. However, because of the obsession with copy protection, I cannot run HD content on them via the DVI socket even though my hardware is perfectly capable. Indeed, my Dell 2405FPW can even render 1080p natively.

My two displays cost a total of £4,000 and yet I am expected to upgrade them just to run HD DVD and Blu-ray to their fullest potential. I don't think so.

It was pretty much exactly this scenario that made the original hacker, muslix64, create his original AACS hack.

Heath McKnight · May 5th, 2007, 07:00 AM

A former Apple employee (I think he ran the depts. that made DVD Studio Pro and iDVD) has this site:

http://writersblocklive.com/boycott/

heath

May 2nd, 2007, 11:15 AM	#1
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	Article: HDDVD Keys posted at Digg... It was bound to happen sometime, (remember hackers wearing CSS decrytion code on their t-shirts)? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269645,00.html __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

May 2nd, 2007, 06:33 PM	#3
Peter Ferling Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Wyomissing, PA Posts: 1,141 Images: 57	More importantly the people those "bozo's" are hurting is folks like us, the producers and content developers whom make a buck on such goods. Maybe you or I might or might not benefit directly for the sales of HD on disk, but we're part of the same family. More and more of our economies are based on digital data, which are now under digital lock and key, and breaking it is just as unlawful as prying open a padlock and stealing the contents. To cry foul at the 'big greedy corporations' and demand some god gifted share is insane. These same 'big greedy corporations' are handing out paychecks to employees whom go home and feed their families. Without receiving money in exchange for this hacked goods is less money for those paychecks. In the end, we are only hurting ourselves. __________________ Pete Ferling http://ferling.net It's never a mistake if you learn something new from it. -------------------------------------------

May 2nd, 2007, 10:06 PM	#5
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	Oh yes it would... just not as quickly perhaps. The story isn't really about the hex code but the ensuing meltdown at Digg. Bizarre to say the least. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

May 2nd, 2007, 11:08 PM	#6
Aaron Burtle New Boot Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 18	Can you make a backup copy of an HD-DVD without that key? __________________ Aaron Burtle Colorspace Inc

May 5th, 2007, 07:00 AM	#8
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	A former Apple employee (I think he ran the depts. that made DVD Studio Pro and iDVD) has this site: http://writersblocklive.com/boycott/ heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

May 2nd, 2007, 06:01 PM	#2
Harrison Murchison Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 243	I think it's a bit ridiculous for people to expect everything for free. Now if I broke into one of these Hackers homes, because I knew how to pick locks, and stole their computers. Would they be so eager to promote theft? If HD DVD or Blu-ray were priced at $50 street I'd understand the anger and frustration. However they are priced from $16 up to the mid 30's. That's not exhorbitant IMO. I cannot and will not support these bozos.

May 2nd, 2007, 06:38 PM	#4
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	not advocating any activity here, however if it wasnt for piracy or porn, DVD wouldnt be where it is today at the costs in which we see it

May 3rd, 2007, 01:37 AM	#7
Richard Leadbetter Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 323	No you can't. My issue with HD DVD and Blu-ray is that I have two perfectly capable HD displays with DVI connectors. However, because of the obsession with copy protection, I cannot run HD content on them via the DVI socket even though my hardware is perfectly capable. Indeed, my Dell 2405FPW can even render 1080p natively. My two displays cost a total of £4,000 and yet I am expected to upgrade them just to run HD DVD and Blu-ray to their fullest potential. I don't think so. It was pretty much exactly this scenario that made the original hacker, muslix64, create his original AACS hack.