A program to view DVC entries

Josh Chesarek · October 30th, 2007, 03:48 AM

ok! Sorry I am posting so much about it. Its just a very cool idea and Im trying to help :)

Benjamin Durin · October 30th, 2007, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Chesarek

ok! Sorry I am posting so much about it. Its just a very cool idea and Im trying to help :)

No need to be sorry, go ahead with bug reports and suggestions. I am glad to have some.
To thank you Josh, I just uploaded an update. There are a few cosmetics improvements, maybe a few bugs fixes and a voting grid.
I'd like to have some feedback about the voting grid. Right now, the total is:
(StoryTheme x 2 + Production ) / 3
Is it fine for everybody or would you like another system?
In the next release I will add a window to see a summary of the votes, sorted by points.

Oh, you can download it at the same place.

Benjamin.

Josh Chesarek · October 30th, 2007, 04:28 AM

Downloaded the new version. Turned on voting. I voted for a film but not sure if all I have to do is click or something else? After clicking the two numbers it did average them together. I closed out the application and when I came back my vote was not there so Im not sure if this would allow me to vote a few times or not. Is it possible to pull in the youtube star ratings and use those as well? I understand the desire for a more refined voting system but it might be easier to use the system all ready in place.

Benjamin Durin · October 30th, 2007, 07:47 AM

Sorry, my bad. I forgot to tell that votes are not saved in this version so they are reset when the application is closed. They will be saved in the next release.
The goal of putting the voting grid in the program is to replace paper and pen. What I can do is adding a function that copies the three first entries in the clipboard. Then you paste this in your email to Dylan.

There are several reasons why we can't use Youtube rating system:
1) Everybody can rate a video in Youtube whereas only the DVC contestants can vote. I don't think there is a way to control who is rating (not an easy one at least).
2) The Youtube API (or functions or feeds) are read only for the moment. So there is no way to rate, upload or modify the information about a video. Until Youtube provides write and read functions that is.

I hope I didn't confuse you more with these explanations. But that is the dark reality of programming...

Benjamin.

Josh Chesarek · October 30th, 2007, 08:50 AM

No problem I hear you loud and clear, I didn't realize you were trying to replace the voting system of sending in our top 3 films, I just though you were trying to allow feed back to the creators of the films. Good work :)

Benjamin Durin · November 2nd, 2007, 04:29 AM

You can find a new update here.
The big new feature is that all the video infos are stored locally. What it means is the first time you launch the application, it will have to search the videos in Youtube which can be pretty long depending on the number of video. But it will save everything locally for the next time. So the subsequent times you launch it, the application will first load the info from the hard drive then search Youtube for updates. It also means the voting grids are saved.
I hope you will appreciate the comfort.

I am a little disappointed by the participation. For DVC 10, there are only 6 videos out of 16 with the adequate keywords. I noted that from these 6 contestants, 4 are between 19 and 30 years old, one is 40 and one is of unknown age. What about the others? Is there something I can do to make you participate?

Dylan, can you spread the word? Please? They will listen to you.

Benjamin Durin · November 4th, 2007, 08:06 PM

Now we have 8 entries with the right keywords, half of the total contestants.

Eight to go!

Josh Chesarek · November 4th, 2007, 08:28 PM

On the new version I get this:

Benjamin Durin · November 4th, 2007, 10:22 PM

Josh, I am contacting you off-list.

Lorinda Norton · November 4th, 2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin Durin

What would be even cooler is if every one could upload to Youtube the videos from past challenges.

Workin' on it now, Benjamin. Thank you for doing this for everyone! :)

Benjamin Durin · November 5th, 2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorinda Norton

Workin' on it now, Benjamin. Thank you for doing this for everyone! :)

Thanks Lorinda.

I won't hide that I was desperate not seeing your entry appear.
Finally you are here!

Benjamin Durin · November 5th, 2007, 10:46 PM

Josh, I sent you an email yesterday but got no reply. So I will ask my questions here:
- Do you have Windows or Mac and which version?
- When exactly this dialog box appears? When trying to install, when launching the app, when the app is already running for a few seconds?

To solve the problem, try uninstalling the application first, then install again.

Thanks,
Benjamin.

Benjamin Durin · November 6th, 2007, 02:02 AM

Today I noted I could not play the videos in the DVC Entry Viewer. After investigating, I found the url for the videos was corrupted in the local database.

Does someone has the same problem or it works fine for everybody? I'd like to have more info so I can fix this.

Thanks,

Benjamin.

Josh Chesarek · November 6th, 2007, 03:30 AM

I am running Mac OS X Leopard. I will uninstall and reinstall. It is right at launch of the viewer. Not sure why I did not get the email but you can always contact me @ josh <'at'> simplethoughtproductions.com I removed the application and AIR and reinstalled manually but get the same error. Maybe the updated something on the mac side but not the PC side yet?

Benjamin Durin · November 6th, 2007, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Chesarek

I am running Mac OS X Leopard. I will uninstall and reinstall. It is right at launch of the viewer.

It seems it's a problem with AIR and Leopard. Adobe is now informed of the problem but I am afraid it will take some time before they correct the bug (not before December I think).

Sorry for that Josh, you were one of my best testers!

Benjamin.

P.S. : the other best tester is Bradley ;)

November 4th, 2007, 08:28 PM	#23
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	On the new version I get this: Attached Thumbnails

October 30th, 2007, 03:48 AM	#16
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	ok! Sorry I am posting so much about it. Its just a very cool idea and Im trying to help :)

October 30th, 2007, 04:28 AM	#18
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	Downloaded the new version. Turned on voting. I voted for a film but not sure if all I have to do is click or something else? After clicking the two numbers it did average them together. I closed out the application and when I came back my vote was not there so Im not sure if this would allow me to vote a few times or not. Is it possible to pull in the youtube star ratings and use those as well? I understand the desire for a more refined voting system but it might be easier to use the system all ready in place.

October 30th, 2007, 07:47 AM	#19
Benjamin Durin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 212	Sorry, my bad. I forgot to tell that votes are not saved in this version so they are reset when the application is closed. They will be saved in the next release. The goal of putting the voting grid in the program is to replace paper and pen. What I can do is adding a function that copies the three first entries in the clipboard. Then you paste this in your email to Dylan. There are several reasons why we can't use Youtube rating system: 1) Everybody can rate a video in Youtube whereas only the DVC contestants can vote. I don't think there is a way to control who is rating (not an easy one at least). 2) The Youtube API (or functions or feeds) are read only for the moment. So there is no way to rate, upload or modify the information about a video. Until Youtube provides write and read functions that is. I hope I didn't confuse you more with these explanations. But that is the dark reality of programming... Benjamin.

October 30th, 2007, 08:50 AM	#20
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	No problem I hear you loud and clear, I didn't realize you were trying to replace the voting system of sending in our top 3 films, I just though you were trying to allow feed back to the creators of the films. Good work :)

November 2nd, 2007, 04:29 AM	#21
Benjamin Durin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 212	You can find a new update here. The big new feature is that all the video infos are stored locally. What it means is the first time you launch the application, it will have to search the videos in Youtube which can be pretty long depending on the number of video. But it will save everything locally for the next time. So the subsequent times you launch it, the application will first load the info from the hard drive then search Youtube for updates. It also means the voting grids are saved. I hope you will appreciate the comfort. I am a little disappointed by the participation. For DVC 10, there are only 6 videos out of 16 with the adequate keywords. I noted that from these 6 contestants, 4 are between 19 and 30 years old, one is 40 and one is of unknown age. What about the others? Is there something I can do to make you participate? Dylan, can you spread the word? Please? They will listen to you.

November 4th, 2007, 08:06 PM	#22
Benjamin Durin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 212	Now we have 8 entries with the right keywords, half of the total contestants. Eight to go!

November 4th, 2007, 10:22 PM	#24
Benjamin Durin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 212	Josh, I am contacting you off-list.

November 5th, 2007, 10:46 PM	#27
Benjamin Durin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 212	Josh, I sent you an email yesterday but got no reply. So I will ask my questions here: - Do you have Windows or Mac and which version? - When exactly this dialog box appears? When trying to install, when launching the app, when the app is already running for a few seconds? To solve the problem, try uninstalling the application first, then install again. Thanks, Benjamin.

November 6th, 2007, 02:02 AM	#28
Benjamin Durin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 212	Today I noted I could not play the videos in the DVC Entry Viewer. After investigating, I found the url for the videos was corrupted in the local database. Does someone has the same problem or it works fine for everybody? I'd like to have more info so I can fix this. Thanks, Benjamin.

November 6th, 2007, 03:30 AM	#29
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	I am running Mac OS X Leopard. I will uninstall and reinstall. It is right at launch of the viewer. Not sure why I did not get the email but you can always contact me @ josh <'at'> simplethoughtproductions.com I removed the application and AIR and reinstalled manually but get the same error. Maybe the updated something on the mac side but not the PC side yet?