DVC3 Nominations! at DVinfo.net

Dylan Couper · September 24th, 2005, 11:30 AM

Ok, here are the nominated films!
To earn a nomination, you have to have two or more votes from the judges. Presented in a completely random order, the nominated films are:

CINEMATOGRAPHY
Nick Hiltgen – Iris
Jeff Tyler – Still Life
Jean-Philippe Archibald – Filature
Tyler Baptist – Snap Shot
Bradley L. Marlow – Iris The Killer
Josh Johnson – Continuum
Elvis Deane – Flash

BEST PICTURE
Elvis Deane – Flash
Tyler Baptist – Snap Shot
Jean-Philippe Archibald – Filature
Hugo Pinto – The Visionary
Bradley L. Marlow – Iris The Killer
Sean Buck – SNAP
Jason Varner – The Best Buy

Dylan Couper · September 24th, 2005, 07:28 PM

FYI, don't read too much into these stats. There were films that scored very highly with only single judge, and actually placed higher overall than some of these films with two nominations. So just because you aren't in the nomination list, doesn't mean you didn't have any votes.

Sean McHenry · September 24th, 2005, 07:29 PM

OK, it's official. So I didn't make the cut this round. That's alright. Hail to the next generation, you're on your way.

Keep looking behind you however. Those footsteps you hear are mine sneaking up on DVC4.

Sean McHenry

Dylan Couper · September 24th, 2005, 07:39 PM

Films that scored single votes from judges, so didn't make the nominations cut, but I'm including them anyway because even with a single vote they scored higher than several of the others with two votes.

Honourable mentions:
Sean McHenry – Frame 37
Jon Jones – Grim Parallax
Nick Hiltgen – Iris
Jeff Tyler – Still Life
Pete Bauer – Self Made

Cinematography:
Sean Buck – SNAP
Lorinda Norton – Last Words
Andrew Johnson and Lisa Lopez – Sweet Talker

Stephen van Vuuren · September 25th, 2005, 01:08 PM

Interesting inside info Dylan...

Sean - judging and film festival selections is an incredibly fickle, arbitrary process that tells you more about the judges than about a film's worth or quality. I mean no offense to anyone who judges (a thankless job if there every was one), but judges are typically watching a lot of films in a short period of time and bring wide variance in their experience, taste and values around filmmaking.

So no one should be discouraged by not being nominated - yes, it's dissappointing when your work is not recognized but that does not mean you should be discouraged.

The Academy Awards is a great example of how fickle, abitrary and self-serving judging is, even when it tries not to be (my guess is DVinfo judges are much fairer than Academy voters). Here's one very notable example:

Consider 1968:

Best picture
"FUNNY GIRL"
Ray Stark, Producer
"THE LION IN WINTER"
Martin Poll, Producer
"OLIVER!"
John Woolf, Producer
"RACHEL, RACHEL"
Paul Newman, Producer
"ROMEO AND JULIET"
Anthony Havelock-Allan and John Brabourne, Producers
And the winner is: OLIVER!

There is a film of note missing. What film?

"2001: A Space Odyssey" of course (Kubrick did win his only Oscar of his career for best Special Effects). 2001 ranks from 22nd to 1st on just about any top films of all time list . AFAIK, none of this films every have cracked any top 100 list.

Many more examples, but the lesson is to keeping making films, keeping put them out there to a variety of audiences and listen to their feedback. If nobody responds, then maybe some self-criticism is warranted. But if you do find people responding to work and connecting with you - that is what really matters, not judges or awards.

Sean McHenry · September 25th, 2005, 01:32 PM

Oh please don't get me wrong, I was making a concession speech. Some days ya win and some you don't. No big deal, I just want the feedback, like everyone else. It does me much more good to hear from other folks than to win.

I won't critique the judges choices or methods, just wondering how I did. I thought this one was stronger than my first and was just wondering where I fit, as I'm sure everyone else wants to know. As Dylan said, if we want to know our ranking, he can tell us after the fact.

I'm excited to see who got it. It was going to be close, as I noted, from day one of the releases. This is getting good. Like I said, those footsteps folks are hearing, that's me sneaking up on DVC4.

Game on everyone.

Sean McHenry

Dick Mays · September 25th, 2005, 02:01 PM

Well deserved nominations! Both for Best Picture and that big Cinematographical word.

Congratulations for these DVC3 winners, and WATCH OUT FOR MY KIDS come Halloween!

September 24th, 2005, 11:30 AM	#1
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	DVC3 Nominations! Ok, here are the nominated films! To earn a nomination, you have to have two or more votes from the judges. Presented in a completely random order, the nominated films are: CINEMATOGRAPHY Nick Hiltgen – Iris Jeff Tyler – Still Life Jean-Philippe Archibald – Filature Tyler Baptist – Snap Shot Bradley L. Marlow – Iris The Killer Josh Johnson – Continuum Elvis Deane – Flash BEST PICTURE Elvis Deane – Flash Tyler Baptist – Snap Shot Jean-Philippe Archibald – Filature Hugo Pinto – The Visionary Bradley L. Marlow – Iris The Killer Sean Buck – SNAP Jason Varner – The Best Buy __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

September 24th, 2005, 07:28 PM	#2
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	FYI, don't read too much into these stats. There were films that scored very highly with only single judge, and actually placed higher overall than some of these films with two nominations. So just because you aren't in the nomination list, doesn't mean you didn't have any votes. __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

September 24th, 2005, 07:29 PM	#3
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	OK, it's official. So I didn't make the cut this round. That's alright. Hail to the next generation, you're on your way. Keep looking behind you however. Those footsteps you hear are mine sneaking up on DVC4. Sean McHenry __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

September 24th, 2005, 07:39 PM	#4
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Films that scored single votes from judges, so didn't make the nominations cut, but I'm including them anyway because even with a single vote they scored higher than several of the others with two votes. Honourable mentions: Sean McHenry – Frame 37 Jon Jones – Grim Parallax Nick Hiltgen – Iris Jeff Tyler – Still Life Pete Bauer – Self Made Cinematography: Sean Buck – SNAP Lorinda Norton – Last Words Andrew Johnson and Lisa Lopez – Sweet Talker __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

September 25th, 2005, 01:08 PM	#5
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Interesting inside info Dylan... Sean - judging and film festival selections is an incredibly fickle, arbitrary process that tells you more about the judges than about a film's worth or quality. I mean no offense to anyone who judges (a thankless job if there every was one), but judges are typically watching a lot of films in a short period of time and bring wide variance in their experience, taste and values around filmmaking. So no one should be discouraged by not being nominated - yes, it's dissappointing when your work is not recognized but that does not mean you should be discouraged. The Academy Awards is a great example of how fickle, abitrary and self-serving judging is, even when it tries not to be (my guess is DVinfo judges are much fairer than Academy voters). Here's one very notable example: Consider 1968: Best picture "FUNNY GIRL" Ray Stark, Producer "THE LION IN WINTER" Martin Poll, Producer "OLIVER!" John Woolf, Producer "RACHEL, RACHEL" Paul Newman, Producer "ROMEO AND JULIET" Anthony Havelock-Allan and John Brabourne, Producers And the winner is: OLIVER! There is a film of note missing. What film? "2001: A Space Odyssey" of course (Kubrick did win his only Oscar of his career for best Special Effects). 2001 ranks from 22nd to 1st on just about any top films of all time list . AFAIK, none of this films every have cracked any top 100 list. Many more examples, but the lesson is to keeping making films, keeping put them out there to a variety of audiences and listen to their feedback. If nobody responds, then maybe some self-criticism is warranted. But if you do find people responding to work and connecting with you - that is what really matters, not judges or awards. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

September 25th, 2005, 01:32 PM	#6
Sean McHenry Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hilliard, Ohio Posts: 1,193	Oh please don't get me wrong, I was making a concession speech. Some days ya win and some you don't. No big deal, I just want the feedback, like everyone else. It does me much more good to hear from other folks than to win. I won't critique the judges choices or methods, just wondering how I did. I thought this one was stronger than my first and was just wondering where I fit, as I'm sure everyone else wants to know. As Dylan said, if we want to know our ranking, he can tell us after the fact. I'm excited to see who got it. It was going to be close, as I noted, from day one of the releases. This is getting good. Like I said, those footsteps folks are hearing, that's me sneaking up on DVC4. Game on everyone. Sean McHenry __________________ ‘I don’t know what I’m doing, and I’m shooting on D.V.’ - my hero - David Lynch http://www.DeepBlueEdit.com

September 25th, 2005, 02:01 PM	#7
Dick Mays Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 690	Well deserved nominations! Both for Best Picture and that big Cinematographical word. Congratulations for these DVC3 winners, and WATCH OUT FOR MY KIDS come Halloween!