How do I deliver my HD content? DVD? at DVinfo.net

Paul Cascio · September 15th, 2004, 10:01 AM

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but will a DVD release benefit at this time from HDV source material, or am I simply prepping for a future re-release?

Thanks

Ignacio Rodriguez · September 15th, 2004, 10:34 AM

I think mostly the latter. Of course there might be additional benefits in post because of the higher resolution aquisition (i.e., a progressive scan SD image derived from 1080i will probably look awesome). If your movie is short enough, you might want to try including the HD version in full resolution as a data file in WM9 or MPEG4 along with the MPEG2 SD version, so some people could watch the HD version on their computers and --someday-- on MPEG4 or WM9 enabled DVD players.

No such thing as stupid questions here, only stupid anwers, from time to time ;-)

Frederic Lumiere · September 15th, 2004, 10:40 AM

Paul,

Ask yourself this question: "Why are features you get on blockbuster DVDs shot in film or HD?"

The better the acquisition, the better the results...even in SD DVD.

Kevin Shaw · September 17th, 2004, 06:45 PM

An HD DVD player was "announced" way back in January (see link), but as far as I know has never actually started shipping. We have HDV cameras, HDV editing software and a viable HD output format...and no good way to deliver this to customers except for playback on computers or on D-VHS. I'm still hopeful we'll see this situation resolved by the end of the year, but I'm getting tired of holding my breath...

http://www.projectorcentral.com/news_story_640.htm

Steve Crisdale · September 18th, 2004, 07:18 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Kevin Shaw : An HD DVD player was "announced" way back in January (see link), but as far as I know has never actually started shipping. We have HDV cameras, HDV editing software and a viable HD output format...and no good way to deliver this to customers except for playback on computers or on D-VHS. I'm still hopeful we'll see this situation resolved by the end of the year, but I'm getting tired of holding my breath...

http://www.projectorcentral.com/news_story_640.htm -->>>

So, you're not aware of the Roku HD1000 media player?

I believe there are some other HD capable media players available....I just haven't checked 'em out.

There are also some HD out capable video cards - just so long as your HDTV has compatible connectors.....

Mark Paschke · September 18th, 2004, 07:33 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Steve Crisdale :

So, you're not aware of the Roku HD1000 media player?

I believe there are some other HD capable media players available....I just haven't checked 'em out.

There are also some HD out capable video cards - just so long as your HDTV has compatible connectors..... -->>>

I think they are talking about what the mainstream Joe Six Pack "customer that will buy their video" has

I have a HD video card and watch my stuff this way on My 55" HD set but none of my customers do, even though the last wedding I shot involved a whole family that are hunting for last years DVHS tape players right now because they ALL have the HD sets.

we are not to far away folks , just pray they do it right and go dual layer ( or 2 hours) HD DVD at the same time or it will be sort of a waste.

Kevin Shaw · September 18th, 2004, 10:27 AM

Steve: I looked up the Roku product and it appears to be designed to play still photos from memory cards, not high-definition video from DVDs. There are also some DVD players which claim to have HD output, but that's just an upsampling from standard-definition DVDs. What we need is the proposed HD-DVD players promised back in January at a retail price of $349, but not yet delivered to market. As of today the only practical way to share HD content I've seen is using the JVC D-VHS recorders.

September 15th, 2004, 10:01 AM	#1
Paul Cascio Trustee Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bristol, CT (Home of EPSN) Posts: 1,192	How do I deliver my HD content? DVD? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but will a DVD release benefit at this time from HDV source material, or am I simply prepping for a future re-release? Thanks __________________ Paul Cascio www.pictureframingschool.com

September 15th, 2004, 10:34 AM	#2
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	I think mostly the latter. Of course there might be additional benefits in post because of the higher resolution aquisition (i.e., a progressive scan SD image derived from 1080i will probably look awesome). If your movie is short enough, you might want to try including the HD version in full resolution as a data file in WM9 or MPEG4 along with the MPEG2 SD version, so some people could watch the HD version on their computers and --someday-- on MPEG4 or WM9 enabled DVD players. No such thing as stupid questions here, only stupid anwers, from time to time ;-) __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

September 15th, 2004, 10:40 AM	#3
Frederic Lumiere Wrangler Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Point Pleasant, NJ Posts: 437	Paul, Ask yourself this question: "Why are features you get on blockbuster DVDs shot in film or HD?" The better the acquisition, the better the results...even in SD DVD.

September 17th, 2004, 06:45 PM	#4
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	An HD DVD player was "announced" way back in January (see link), but as far as I know has never actually started shipping. We have HDV cameras, HDV editing software and a viable HD output format...and no good way to deliver this to customers except for playback on computers or on D-VHS. I'm still hopeful we'll see this situation resolved by the end of the year, but I'm getting tired of holding my breath... http://www.projectorcentral.com/news_story_640.htm

September 18th, 2004, 07:18 AM	#5
Steve Crisdale Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Katoomba NSW Australia Posts: 635	<<<-- Originally posted by Kevin Shaw : An HD DVD player was "announced" way back in January (see link), but as far as I know has never actually started shipping. We have HDV cameras, HDV editing software and a viable HD output format...and no good way to deliver this to customers except for playback on computers or on D-VHS. I'm still hopeful we'll see this situation resolved by the end of the year, but I'm getting tired of holding my breath... http://www.projectorcentral.com/news_story_640.htm -->>> So, you're not aware of the Roku HD1000 media player? I believe there are some other HD capable media players available....I just haven't checked 'em out. There are also some HD out capable video cards - just so long as your HDTV has compatible connectors.....

September 18th, 2004, 07:33 AM	#6
Mark Paschke Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Willamette Valley OR Posts: 90	<<<-- Originally posted by Steve Crisdale : So, you're not aware of the Roku HD1000 media player? I believe there are some other HD capable media players available....I just haven't checked 'em out. There are also some HD out capable video cards - just so long as your HDTV has compatible connectors..... -->>> I think they are talking about what the mainstream Joe Six Pack "customer that will buy their video" has I have a HD video card and watch my stuff this way on My 55" HD set but none of my customers do, even though the last wedding I shot involved a whole family that are hunting for last years DVHS tape players right now because they ALL have the HD sets. we are not to far away folks , just pray they do it right and go dual layer ( or 2 hours) HD DVD at the same time or it will be sort of a waste.

September 18th, 2004, 10:27 AM	#7
Kevin Shaw Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,488	Steve: I looked up the Roku product and it appears to be designed to play still photos from memory cards, not high-definition video from DVDs. There are also some DVD players which claim to have HD output, but that's just an upsampling from standard-definition DVDs. What we need is the proposed HD-DVD players promised back in January at a retail price of $349, but not yet delivered to market. As of today the only practical way to share HD content I've seen is using the JVC D-VHS recorders.