FX1 to DVD downconvert
 

Hello !

I tried a downconvert from 1080i upper field first to 480i lower firld first in Vegas so I can transfer it to DVD. The Vegas result was kind of blurry. So I tried it in Shake and I got a much better result.

I wish Vegas had a better resizing filter.

http://home.comcast.net/~chalbers/compare_short.mov

Right click to download

Notice the difference in the tree foliage and grass.

Frank

Yeah, Shake is noticably sharper. Same field order settings on both exports eh?

<<<-- Originally posted by Jack McCann : Yeah, Shake is noticably sharper. Same field order settings on both exports eh? -->>>

Yep ! Both upper field first to lower field first.

cool. Good to know.

But this quality is only visible on DVD if you also create high quality mpeg for DVD. I use 2 pass and variable rate to max 9800

Gives the best result for not much bigger file.

Frank

Isn't shake for Mac only?
 

I'm asking since you are comparing Vegas (pc only) vs Shake that I believe is Mac only. You probably run on two platforms that is pretty strange for a MAC guy. Do you know of a good resizing program for Windows?

Gabriele

Re: Isn't shake for Mac only?
 

<<<-- Originally posted by Gabriele Sartori : I'm asking since you are comparing Vegas (pc only) vs Shake that I believe is Mac only. You probably run on two platforms that is pretty strange for a MAC guy. Do you know of a good resizing program for Windows?

Gabriele -->>>

Not really ! Shake is also on PC

The older version that is. That's what I used

"Not really ! Shake is also on PC"

That is why I put the question mark on my title, I knew it was for MAC but this answer is a good piece of information. I never put too much attention on it. How do you like it?
I've a 4P Opteron monster machine and I like the maximum quality since I've has much computation power as money can buy on a single machine .

Again on shake, I don't see windows platform, can you explain?
 

http://www.videomaker.com/scripts/news.cfm?id=928

thanks
Gabriele

Re: Again on shake, I don't see windows platform, can you explain?
 

<<<-- Originally posted by Gabriele Sartori : http://www.videomaker.com/scripts/news.cfm?id=928

thanks
Gabriele -->>>

As I explained before . It's an older shake version available for PC.

Shake was also on PC before Apple got a hold of it.

Frank

I understand now
 

I understand. Too bad is not on windows anymore. It is very expensive though, are you happy with it? I saw Aplle still sell an X86 version for Linux. I hate dual boot but I could do that in case.

Frank:

I downloaded your QuickTime clip, and compared it to the same footage downconverted to standard defination in Vegas 5 and my downconversion looks *much better* than yours.

I'm not sure how you did your downconvert in Vegas, since your result appears to take the 16:9 HDV frame at 1440x1080 pixels an convert it to standard definition 4:3 frame at 720x480 pixels using a stretch, which distorts the picture. You'd have to go out of your way in Vegas to do that! By default, it would letterbox the 16:9 into the 4:3 frame. Even if you were targeting widescreen SD (1.2121 pixel aspect), Vegas would still create small black bars on the sides since widescreen SD is slightly wider than 16:9 if it's 720 pixels wide.

So, exactly what settings in Vegas did you use to create this?

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Sony Media Software

Just selecting the DV Widescreen template and setting quality to best.

Anything else I should do ?

Frank

And then how'd you get it in QuickTime format? Another format conversion? I still can't figure out why the frame is compressed (anamorphic) and doesn't have black bars on the sides. There's obviously some conversions happening *after* the Vegas downconvert.

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