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Old February 3rd, 2006, 10:39 AM   #1
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Deinterlacing / export to DVD help

I edit footage shot with consumer DV cams (various 1 ccd sonys) and am trying to squeeze as much as I can quality wise out of them. Previously I've been editing for speed so things like deinterlacing and output to dvd havent come up. Now I'd like to deinterlace (progressive scan would be nice) and output to dvd in the highest quality I can. What workflow should I use. I edit in Premiere 6.5 (upgrading to pro 2.0 isnt a problem if its necessary). Should I capture in premiere, do my normal editing, output to avi then deinterlace and output to mpeg2? or deinterlace first then edit in premiere? What is the best way to go to dvd out of a NLE? Right now I just pass through a camcorder and use s-video into a dvd-r deck and hit record. It works but I dont like the loss in going to analog. Any thoughts?

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Old February 3rd, 2006, 12:00 PM   #2
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You should definitely capture and edit normally first. The de-interlacing can take a while to render so you should wait until you have picture lock. No reason to deinterlace footage that may not end up in the final piece.

There are several ways to go about the de-interlacing on a PC, but I don't recommend deinterlacing in Premiere, especially version 6.5.

You should look into DV Filmmaker:
http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/index.htm

Or if you have After Effects
Magic Bullet:
http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/magbulsuit.html
or RevisionFX Fieldskit
http://www.revisionfx.com/rsfk.htm

Each of these software have their own plusses and minuses and recommendations on preparing the footage, so once you make that choice read up on the manuals.

I don't think upgrading to PPro 2 will help with deinterlacing at all, but it would speed up the workflow between Premiere and After Effects if you go that route and it will allow you to create a DVD straight off the timeline to your DVD-Burner without having to create an AVI to answeer your other question. Otherwise to avoid the analog step you would need to create an MPG2 file from your timeline, or converted from an AVI to author to DVD using your DVD authoring program of choice.

While you're considering upgrading software, another choice may be Vegas is pretty good at deinterlacing on it's own, and with DVD architect has a great DVD authoring solution.

So in summary:
1. capture and edit normally.
2. Deinterlace using one of the options above (or another option I don't know about.)
3. Create a 24P MPG2 file for DVD
4. Author and Burn 24P DVD.

Hope that helps.
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Old February 5th, 2006, 01:06 PM   #3
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You should definitely capture and edit normally first. The de-interlacing can take a while to render so you should wait until you have picture lock. No reason to deinterlace footage that may not end up in the final piece.

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So in summary:
1. capture and edit normally.
2. Deinterlace using one of the options above (or another option I don't know about.)
3. Create a 24P MPG2 file for DVD
4. Author and Burn 24P DVD.

Hope that helps.
There are 2 more than you can consider or add to the list of a post production de-interlacer, Canopus Procoder and TMPGEnc will both allow a de-interlaced output for the final MPG2 file.

In my workflow I typically do just that, capture and edit in DV, output a DV file from Premier, import it into either TMPG or use the Procoder plug in from Premier and create the MPG2 file with the de-interlaced options if needed and the 16:9 or 4:3 flags set then import the output into DVD Archietech for menus and authoring, the final step that I tend to take is to create an ISO from Sony DVD Arch and use that for future burns in Nero.
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Old February 11th, 2006, 08:33 AM   #4
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How do you Deinterlace in Vegas?

I have Vegas 6.0c and have tried making DVD's with DVD Architect. I edited normal widescreen 60i DV footage in Vegas. If I output using the NTSC widescreen DVD Architect template, the final DVD output is okay. Its relatively clean, but has a fair amount of mpeg2 compression artifacts, ie mosquito noise, etc. When I tried the NTSC 24p widescreen Arhcitect output, the final output DVD was much cleaner and more "film" like, almost like a commercial DVD - ie NO mosquito noise. The image was a little bit softer, but not bad. The real problem was with motion, any slight camera shake seems magnified 10x, and any somewhat fast motion in the vidoe leaves too much motion blurring. There are numerous setting in Vegas for Project Properties (motion blur type, deinterlacing method, etc.), but aren't these just the properties of the imported or captured DV footage to be used while editing on your computer monitor? Or are these the ones for your output?

Finally, what setting give the cleanest overall output that will still allow for fast action shots. Thanks
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