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Old January 31st, 2007, 04:46 AM   #1
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What is the best DVD-R media?

Here is my problem, I had to re-burn a new DVD for a client because the media didn't play properly on his DVD player, I used a no-name generic DVD+R.

I went to Fry's and got a 50 pack of Memorex DVD-R's that work perfectly and the client is happy.

Now I'm finding these memorex DVD's don't play very good on my Toshiba DVD player which is about 5 years old. I tested the media in 2 other DVD players and it plays just fine. It's only dropping out with my Toshiba.

I've read mixed reviews about Memorex DVD's. Is there any true brand that will play on any DVD player? It seems like different DVD players like different brands of discs.

I find mixed reviews about every brand I look up!
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Old January 31st, 2007, 09:12 AM   #2
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TDK, Memorex, and Sony are some of the best brands on the market. However, you will find that other factors will influence the playability of DVDs more than the brand.

Personally I prefer DVD+R with bitsetting enabled - zero complaints since I started using TDK and Sony DVD+R blanks on my bitsetting enabled BenQ burner.
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Old January 31st, 2007, 12:19 PM   #3
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Hi Scott,

Take a look at digitalFAQ.com

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Old January 31st, 2007, 04:04 PM   #4
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TDK, Memorex, and Sony are some of the best brands on the market. However, you will find that other factors will influence the playability of DVDs more than the brand.

Personally I prefer DVD+R with bitsetting enabled - zero complaints since I started using TDK and Sony DVD+R blanks on my bitsetting enabled BenQ burner.
I've read a lot about the bitsetting enabled function, tricking your DVD into thinking it's a DVD-ROM and such. I don't think DVD Studio Pro allows you to do this.
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Old January 31st, 2007, 08:46 PM   #5
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Soooo for the vegas+DVD users out there

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I've read a lot about the bitsetting enabled function, tricking your DVD into thinking it's a DVD-ROM and such. I don't think DVD Studio Pro allows you to do this.
Can DVDA burn with a bit set? If not, do I create my rendered DVD and then burn with a different app to be able to use the bitset function?

What about mastering for a replication / duplication plant? I have not used DVDA's render to "Master" yet because I havent' seen a need. What does it do differently?

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Old January 31st, 2007, 09:54 PM   #6
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I've read a lot about the bitsetting enabled function, tricking your DVD into thinking it's a DVD-ROM and such. I don't think DVD Studio Pro allows you to do this.
I think you actually do this by setting the burner's driver... someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old February 1st, 2007, 12:03 AM   #7
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Well, I just discovered that a 3hr seminar that I burnt onto a DL DVD will not play on anything!, I used a Memorex DVD+R DL and it worked fine 6 months ago, it's just been sitting in a file, so there is no reason for it not to work.

I just purchased some Verbatim DVD-R's & DVD+R DL's for my mac, I hope this stuff lasts longer than this Memorex crap.

I'm just going to use the Memorex for mailing demos, but not for finished projects!
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Old February 1st, 2007, 12:53 AM   #8
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Well, the Verbatim is crap too. It freezes in my Toshiba just like the Mermorsux discs.

I looked on the inner label and apparently they are now manufactured in TAIWAN!? I thought this stuff was suppose to be the best! Now it seems it's just cheap crap like everything else. I'm returning these discs because they are only slightly better than what I've got.

Can someone please post a link to some decent recordable media?

Thanks.
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Old February 1st, 2007, 01:39 PM   #9
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Can someone please post a link to some decent recordable media?
Do a search for "Taiyo Yuden" in this forum. Just going by what I have read around here over the last few months, they have a very good reputation.

Good luck!

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Old February 1st, 2007, 09:48 PM   #10
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Scott, I've been dealing with the same issues just few month back. The final quality of the burned DVD depends on many things. Yes, the blanks are very important, but so is your burner and the burner software. I tried a bunch of different blanks, both formats (-R, +R) and nothing worked well; my copies were playing on some players just fine, they didn't play on others.

So I decided to do some research on these forums and some others, and concluded that my burner was old and inadequate. Invested in a BenQ and since then I'm a happy camper and so are my clients!
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Old February 1st, 2007, 11:45 PM   #11
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Scott, I've been dealing with the same issues just few month back. The final quality of the burned DVD depends on many things. Yes, the blanks are very important, but so is your burner and the burner software. I tried a bunch of different blanks, both formats (-R, +R) and nothing worked well; my copies were playing on some players just fine, they didn't play on others.

So I decided to do some research on these forums and some others, and concluded that my burner was old and inadequate. Invested in a BenQ and since then I'm a happy camper and so are my clients!
Thanks. The single layer Memorex are testing at 100% with "CD Check" software. It's the Dual Layer Memorex that seem to be BLACK DEATH. I have 2 6 month old discs that worked fine but will no longer play in ANYTHING. I don't understand it! I know most professionals stay away from the DL media when possible but I didn't realize it would degrade this fast!
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Old February 2nd, 2007, 06:00 AM   #12
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DVD+ Bit Setting Changed

Hi Scott,

You have a set of options available to you and I have listed them in order or compatability (1 being crap and 4 being awsome...)

Before i start:

When you burn the disc you will see that your recording software will tell you at some point that it is finalising the disc. During this process some header info is copied to the disc to give it an identity. (volume name, dvd size, bit setting). The important part to note is the Bit setting. This tells the dvd player what type of disc has been inserted. A film made by Universal studios obviously uses a mastering company to mass produce discs and when this is done the bit setting is set to 'DVD ROM'. How often have you heard someone complain that the dvd they purchased didnt play???


1. Use a DVD+R disc with standard dvd writer.
This will set the bit-setting to 'DVD+R' and this is the least compatible with many players.

2. Use a DVD-R disc with standard dvd writer.
This will set the bit-setting to 'DVD-R' and this works with a much wider range of players....but importantly not all.

3. Use a DVD+R disc with standard dvd writer but Nero 6 with bit-setting set to DVD-ROM
This will set the bit-setting to 'DVD ROM' and works with almost all players but the process is done at software level and can cause failures during the burning process.

4. Use a DVD+R with a dvd writer that has has firmware flashed to hardcode the bit-setting
This sets bit-setting to DVD Rom on a hardware level during the burn process and ensures most compatability and highest success rate of burning.


I have tried many types of discs and have found the following combination very successfull (infact so successful that it has never failed...100% good burns!)

Verbatim DVD+R dvds 16x
Pioneer DVR-111D writer

Also, verbatim discs really cheap and dvd writer only costs 20!

Trust me, you will not be dissapointed..
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Old February 2nd, 2007, 06:58 AM   #13
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Vince, I followed you all the way till #3.

But what do you mean by "hardcore bit-setting"? Can you elaborate please? Any white papers on that?

Thanks,
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Old February 2nd, 2007, 09:04 AM   #14
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Hardware / Software Bit Setting

There is two ways to change the bitsetting on a dvd, one by using the software application to burn the disc and the other to permenantly change the hardware setting of a dvd burner drive.

The cleanest and most reliable way is to change the hardware setting.

Hope that makes more sense?
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Old February 2nd, 2007, 09:36 AM   #15
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There is two ways to change the bitsetting on a dvd, one by using the software application to burn the disc and the other to permenantly change the hardware setting of a dvd burner drive.

The cleanest and most reliable way is to change the hardware setting.

Hope that makes more sense?
Is there a way to change the bit setting in DVD Studio Pro?
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