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my 1st wedding with 7D · November 20th, 2009, 03:07 PM

Hi?
I have shot Save the Date with 7D, but this is the very 1st wedding that I shot with 7D, and all I can say is that I am going full 7D set next season. No bothering with A1s or any video cameras any more. 98% shot with 7D. 2% shot with A1 (1st scene+roomshot of reception hall)

Bart Wierzbicki · November 20th, 2009, 04:09 PM

Nice one ! JJ

Which lens did you use ?

J.J. Kim · November 20th, 2009, 06:35 PM

Thank you!
mostly 28mm f1.8.
i used the kit lens during photo session, but I don't think I used any those shots in trailer.
Thinking about getting 100mm f2 since I wanna get closer shots during 1st dance, etc.

Marc S. Brown · November 20th, 2009, 11:03 PM

Lovely images... With a full 7D set, how do you plan on capturing your audio?

Great Piece!

Marc

Jon McGuffin · November 21st, 2009, 09:39 AM

Yep, I had the same exact thought. The 7D would work great with the LAV setup I have, but just bringing in general audio, I'm a bit concerned.

Louis Maddalena · November 21st, 2009, 10:52 AM

I can't speak for J.J but I use the H4N for audio... works like a dream.

J.J. Kim · November 21st, 2009, 02:45 PM

Thank you!
I used A1 for audio for ceremony and toasts.
I am thinking about H4N, but how do you control the volume?
I looked around the photos of H4N but doesn't look like it has a control over the volume.
I may be wrong, but if that has the volume control, then I will buy it for sure since I am planning on going full 7D for all the camera that we use for weddings.
I don't wait for that firmware (can't think of the name right now..)to come out, either.

JJ

Simon Denny · November 22nd, 2009, 04:57 AM

Hey that looks good.
I was wondering what challenges you had working with the 7D and also what ISO you were using most of the time.

Cheers

Jon McGuffin · November 22nd, 2009, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J.J. Kim

Thank you!
I used A1 for audio for ceremony and toasts.
I am thinking about H4N, but how do you control the volume?
I looked around the photos of H4N but doesn't look like it has a control over the volume.
I may be wrong, but if that has the volume control, then I will buy it for sure since I am planning on going full 7D for all the camera that we use for weddings.
I don't wait for that firmware (can't think of the name right now..)to come out, either.

JJ

In addition to this, can somebody say whether this H4N will mount to the camera via the shoe? I can't see a picture of the backside of this unit to know. That would be a huge plus.

Jon

J.J. Kim · November 22nd, 2009, 10:07 AM

hey, Jon, check the link below. Zacuto has something for H4n Mount on 7D
Zound Hotshoe - Zacuto

Thanks, Simon. I usually stick with 100,200,400,800 and 1600 (if I really really have to).
There is a thread about the whole ISO settings and whatnot if you search on 7D forum.
The only challenge that I had was outdoor photo session (which I shouldn't have any more problem since I got the fader filter), and using prime lenses. When I like to get closer to the subject, either I have to change the lens or step closer, where I could simply zoom in with regular video cameras.

J.J. Kim · November 22nd, 2009, 12:14 PM

2nd wedding with 7D.

Cristian Derois · November 29th, 2009, 09:19 AM

Hello Kim. Very nice shots, music very touching. I am very amazed what you guys are doing with this piece of camera.

What I worry is if memory card can handle to cover the cerimony. Is it possible to shoot at 1080p 23.98 fps the whole religious cerimony? I say, with out pushing the rec button to save space. It is one of the worst nightmares to edit wedding with tons of clips and sync'em to the 2nd camera. By the way, 7D does have timecode?

Sorry, I made a lot question in your beautiful post. Keep working!

Alvin Ang Teng Cheong · November 30th, 2009, 06:42 AM

Beautiful shots, great sunset & location, love your work :)

Now I'm tempted to buy a 28mm lens too!

Just asking, did you run into any of the dreaded 'heat' issues whilst shooting?

Were you shooting with any form of stabilizer or shoulder mount?

Cristian, 7D doesn't have any timecode options (correct me if i am wrong please.), not that i know of at least.

I think gluetools can help those who would like to have timecode for their 7D footage. (Not advertising for them, gluetools is for FCP users. I'm a Sony Vegas user. ;p )

Thanks!

Chuck Spaulding · November 30th, 2009, 11:49 AM

I'm curious about your technique for handheld shoots too.

Generally I'm considered a solid/stable camera operator, with traditional video cameras, but recently went out and shot some handheld footage with the 7D - I suck!

I stayed on target well but had this slight annoying shake, I had the IS turned off but I can't believe it makes that much difference, I'll try it again today with it on. It was also amazing how it looked pretty good in the LCD but the shake was very noticeable in FCP.

Jon Fairhurst · November 30th, 2009, 01:04 PM

Because of rolling-shutter jello, DvSLRs are terrible handheld, unless you use the very widest lenses. Even then, a shoulder rig helps immensely.

November 20th, 2009, 11:03 PM	#4
Marc S. Brown Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jenkinsburg,GA. Posts: 39	Very cool! How about audio? Lovely images... With a full 7D set, how do you plan on capturing your audio? Great Piece! Marc

November 21st, 2009, 10:52 AM	#6
Louis Maddalena Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NYC Area. Posts: 550	I can't speak for J.J but I use the H4N for audio... works like a dream. __________________ Red Epic available for rent, starting at $500 per day, Scarlets, and Lenses available too. rentals.maddalenamedia.com

November 22nd, 2009, 12:14 PM	#11
J.J. Kim Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 270	2nd wedding with 7D. Kristen + Luke Wedding Film Trailer on Vimeo

November 30th, 2009, 01:04 PM	#15
Jon Fairhurst Inner Circle Join Date: May 2006 Location: Camas, WA, USA Posts: 5,513	Because of rolling-shutter jello, DvSLRs are terrible handheld, unless you use the very widest lenses. Even then, a shoulder rig helps immensely. __________________ Jon Fairhurst

November 20th, 2009, 04:09 PM	#2
Bart Wierzbicki Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Zonhoven Posts: 153	Nice one ! JJ Which lens did you use ?

November 20th, 2009, 06:35 PM	#3
J.J. Kim Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 270	Thank you! mostly 28mm f1.8. i used the kit lens during photo session, but I don't think I used any those shots in trailer. Thinking about getting 100mm f2 since I wanna get closer shots during 1st dance, etc.

November 21st, 2009, 09:39 AM	#5
Jon McGuffin Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 634	Yep, I had the same exact thought. The 7D would work great with the LAV setup I have, but just bringing in general audio, I'm a bit concerned.

November 21st, 2009, 02:45 PM	#7
J.J. Kim Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 270	Thank you! I used A1 for audio for ceremony and toasts. I am thinking about H4N, but how do you control the volume? I looked around the photos of H4N but doesn't look like it has a control over the volume. I may be wrong, but if that has the volume control, then I will buy it for sure since I am planning on going full 7D for all the camera that we use for weddings. I don't wait for that firmware (can't think of the name right now..)to come out, either. JJ

November 22nd, 2009, 04:57 AM	#8
Simon Denny Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,409	Hey that looks good. I was wondering what challenges you had working with the 7D and also what ISO you were using most of the time. Cheers

November 22nd, 2009, 10:07 AM	#10
J.J. Kim Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 270	hey, Jon, check the link below. Zacuto has something for H4n Mount on 7D Zound Hotshoe - Zacuto Thanks, Simon. I usually stick with 100,200,400,800 and 1600 (if I really really have to). There is a thread about the whole ISO settings and whatnot if you search on 7D forum. The only challenge that I had was outdoor photo session (which I shouldn't have any more problem since I got the fader filter), and using prime lenses. When I like to get closer to the subject, either I have to change the lens or step closer, where I could simply zoom in with regular video cameras.

November 29th, 2009, 09:19 AM	#12
Cristian Derois Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Porto Alegre, Brazil Posts: 28	Hello Kim. Very nice shots, music very touching. I am very amazed what you guys are doing with this piece of camera. What I worry is if memory card can handle to cover the cerimony. Is it possible to shoot at 1080p 23.98 fps the whole religious cerimony? I say, with out pushing the rec button to save space. It is one of the worst nightmares to edit wedding with tons of clips and sync'em to the 2nd camera. By the way, 7D does have timecode? Sorry, I made a lot question in your beautiful post. Keep working!

November 30th, 2009, 06:42 AM	#13
Alvin Ang Teng Cheong Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 39	Beautiful shots, great sunset & location, love your work :) Now I'm tempted to buy a 28mm lens too! Just asking, did you run into any of the dreaded 'heat' issues whilst shooting? Were you shooting with any form of stabilizer or shoulder mount? Cristian, 7D doesn't have any timecode options (correct me if i am wrong please.), not that i know of at least. I think gluetools can help those who would like to have timecode for their 7D footage. (Not advertising for them, gluetools is for FCP users. I'm a Sony Vegas user. ;p ) Thanks!

November 30th, 2009, 11:49 AM	#14
Chuck Spaulding Trustee Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Thousand Oaks Posts: 1,099	I'm curious about your technique for handheld shoots too. Generally I'm considered a solid/stable camera operator, with traditional video cameras, but recently went out and shot some handheld footage with the 7D - I suck! I stayed on target well but had this slight annoying shake, I had the IS turned off but I can't believe it makes that much difference, I'll try it again today with it on. It was also amazing how it looked pretty good in the LCD but the shake was very noticeable in FCP.