Direct to Disk questions at DVinfo.net

Dean Harrington · May 25th, 2004, 05:24 PM

I just finished a two week shoot using a multi-region DVD-R burn direct from the cam. Each burn was two hours. Worked well - had a berhinger euro-mixer working the sound with a monitor out the back-end of the DVD-R for checking output.

Alex Beaupre · July 9th, 2004, 09:41 PM

im new with direct to disk, but for a bit of background im using a canon gl2 and final cut express on a powerbook g4, and i cant seem to go direct to diisk through the final cut express capture mode, any ideas?
thanks in advance

-alex

Kirk Candlish · July 13th, 2004, 03:57 AM

I just capture to iMovie and then import the project into FCE when it's time to edit.

Have the camera on and connected to your Powerbook before you launch iMovie. Switch iMovie to capture mode and click Import. You'll see the clip show up and the time:frames counting away. Just click Import again to stop it and / or start a new segment.

I'm using iMovie 4 to do this and it works great. The capture quality is that same as if you went directly into FCE.

Alex Beaupre · July 14th, 2004, 12:05 AM

hey, thanks very much for taking the time to post the tip, sounds like it works great, ill have to give it a try. thanks again.

- alex b.

James Connors · March 2nd, 2005, 09:10 AM

I've used the demo of DVRack on my current desktop, great piece of kit! Alas my laptop (when I get it) will be underpowered at 1ghz for either some of the aspects, or maybe the entire program.

If this is the case, anyone know of a piece of software designed to do the HDD recording segment? I know I could use an NLE, but as DVRack proves, a proper live solution is simply better. Wouldn't need it to monitor what the camera is showing, just use the PC and probably a firewire HDD to cap the footage, preferably triggered via the rec control on the cam.

My lappy will be a 1ghz p3 with 384mb and a pretty poor looking graphics card. Compaq Armada E500.

Rob Lohman · March 6th, 2005, 04:25 AM

Trigger via the rec control on the cam is the problem. The only
program I know that does this is DV Rack. Yes you can use the
NLE's capture portion (which is a seperate application in the
case of Sony's Vegas) or use a seperate capture program like
www.scenalyzer.com

Pat Sherman · April 8th, 2005, 08:06 AM

If you were using a XP laptop I believe you could just use the OS to capture from.. In theory for example I have a Comcast DVR cable box and of course those have a 1394 out, so if I wanted to take a show to watch later on the road, I just plug my laptop into it and XP says what do you want to do, I say "RECORD" and it records the show to the hard drive..

I would think the camera would do the same..

Riley Harmon · April 19th, 2005, 12:23 PM

XP will recognize and install the drivers for your camera, then it will show up in My Computer as a device, Like an mp3 player/harddive would show up, then you can record directly to the harddrive or capture stills, i think by either right clicking on the device or using an option that shows up in the left pane. I believe it records to the 'My Videos' folder.

Wayne Morellini · September 26th, 2005, 02:37 AM

Has anybody figured out a solution for direct to disk recording of the Sony HC1/A1 component port?

At the moment I know of one solution component to HSDi to HSDi on computer, very expensive.

There is a thread over at the alternative imaging forum, that talks about live output from the stills memory mode on Sony DV cameras via firewire. If this has greater picture quality a firewire solution might also be good.

Thanks

Wayne.

Serge Victorovich · October 26th, 2005, 01:48 AM

Hi, Wayne
Check this tread "Cineform and Wafien for HD100 users":
http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=52870

Wayne Morellini · October 26th, 2005, 11:51 PM

Yep, thanks Serge, onto it.

Dylan Reeve · August 5th, 2006, 02:45 PM

I will be editing a show next year that will be shot with Panasonic AJ-HDC27 Varicams and am looking to implement a workflow that will include direct-to-disk recording in tandem with tape recording to streamline the offline workflow...

So SD DV video will be dumped to edit suites directly from disk and DVCPro HD tapes will be used for the program online later.

However no disk is available to work with that camera (it only offers SDI out).

I thought I was doomed, but I have since discovered this device from Miranda:
http://www.miranda.com/product.php?i=226&l=1

So now my question is -- has anyone used one of these with a Firestore FS3 or similar recorder? And how well does it work? Will the Synchro-record options work? Is the timecode recording going to be accurate?

Are there any other options? I want to record a DV video stream, ideally in Avid OMF format. It's important that all information from the tapes be present on the disks, and no extra on the disks (otherwise online compile will become a problem).

Cheers,
Dylan Reeve

Ben Mclaughlin · August 14th, 2006, 06:05 PM

i do not have an idea on how to record direct to disk, my thoughts were
this from sony z1p run firewire cable to laptop -- then can i use adobe
prem 2.0 to capture? -- i was going to store the HDV footage on a 480mps
external HDD

can anyone give me a basic walk through on the capture aspect?

Jesse Redman · August 15th, 2006, 02:27 PM

Ben,

When I plug my Xl2 to my laptop (plug it in then turn on my XL2 or it could fry my firewire connection on my XL2) via firewire with no application running, it recognizes that I've plugged in my XL2, it brings up the windows capture program and I can save the captured file as a wmv, avi (standard DV format) or play with the capture specs. I can save it in any directory I choose.

Once the file(s) are captured, I can edit them in any NLE I choose.

Hope this helps.

Ben Mclaughlin · August 15th, 2006, 06:10 PM

thanks ill give it a shot
:)

May 25th, 2004, 05:24 PM	#1
Dean Harrington Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tokyo Posts: 898	Direct to Disk questions I just finished a two week shoot using a multi-region DVD-R burn direct from the cam. Each burn was two hours. Worked well - had a berhinger euro-mixer working the sound with a monitor out the back-end of the DVD-R for checking output.

July 9th, 2004, 09:41 PM	#2
Alex Beaupre Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: michigan Posts: 80	Direct to disk with Final Cut Express im new with direct to disk, but for a bit of background im using a canon gl2 and final cut express on a powerbook g4, and i cant seem to go direct to diisk through the final cut express capture mode, any ideas? thanks in advance -alex __________________ have you ever wanted something so bad you couldent stop thinking about it? a car, a girl, a skate trick? thats what this video was to me it started as an addiction but turned into an obsession. -Adam Johnson

July 13th, 2004, 03:57 AM	#3
Kirk Candlish Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southern, CA Posts: 198	Use iMovie to capture I just capture to iMovie and then import the project into FCE when it's time to edit. Have the camera on and connected to your Powerbook before you launch iMovie. Switch iMovie to capture mode and click Import. You'll see the clip show up and the time:frames counting away. Just click Import again to stop it and / or start a new segment. I'm using iMovie 4 to do this and it works great. The capture quality is that same as if you went directly into FCE.

July 14th, 2004, 12:05 AM	#4
Alex Beaupre Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: michigan Posts: 80	hey, thanks very much for taking the time to post the tip, sounds like it works great, ill have to give it a try. thanks again. - alex b. __________________ have you ever wanted something so bad you couldent stop thinking about it? a car, a girl, a skate trick? thats what this video was to me it started as an addiction but turned into an obsession. -Adam Johnson

March 2nd, 2005, 09:10 AM	#5
James Connors Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cardiff, UK Posts: 223	Direct to Disk Software I've used the demo of DVRack on my current desktop, great piece of kit! Alas my laptop (when I get it) will be underpowered at 1ghz for either some of the aspects, or maybe the entire program. If this is the case, anyone know of a piece of software designed to do the HDD recording segment? I know I could use an NLE, but as DVRack proves, a proper live solution is simply better. Wouldn't need it to monitor what the camera is showing, just use the PC and probably a firewire HDD to cap the footage, preferably triggered via the rec control on the cam. My lappy will be a 1ghz p3 with 384mb and a pretty poor looking graphics card. Compaq Armada E500.

March 6th, 2005, 04:25 AM	#6
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Trigger via the rec control on the cam is the problem. The only program I know that does this is DV Rack. Yes you can use the NLE's capture portion (which is a seperate application in the case of Sony's Vegas) or use a seperate capture program like www.scenalyzer.com __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 8th, 2005, 08:06 AM	#7
Pat Sherman Major Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: DuPont, Wa Posts: 325	If you were using a XP laptop I believe you could just use the OS to capture from.. In theory for example I have a Comcast DVR cable box and of course those have a 1394 out, so if I wanted to take a show to watch later on the road, I just plug my laptop into it and XP says what do you want to do, I say "RECORD" and it records the show to the hard drive.. I would think the camera would do the same..

April 19th, 2005, 12:23 PM	#8
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	XP will recognize and install the drivers for your camera, then it will show up in My Computer as a device, Like an mp3 player/harddive would show up, then you can record directly to the harddrive or capture stills, i think by either right clicking on the device or using an option that shows up in the left pane. I believe it records to the 'My Videos' folder.

September 26th, 2005, 02:37 AM	#9
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	Direct to disk for Sony HC1/A1 from component? Has anybody figured out a solution for direct to disk recording of the Sony HC1/A1 component port? At the moment I know of one solution component to HSDi to HSDi on computer, very expensive. There is a thread over at the alternative imaging forum, that talks about live output from the stills memory mode on Sony DV cameras via firewire. If this has greater picture quality a firewire solution might also be good. Thanks Wayne.

October 26th, 2005, 01:48 AM	#10
Serge Victorovich Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 376	Hi, Wayne Check this tread "Cineform and Wafien for HD100 users": http://dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?t=52870

October 26th, 2005, 11:51 PM	#11
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	Yep, thanks Serge, onto it.

August 5th, 2006, 02:45 PM	#12
Dylan Reeve Tourist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 4	Direct to Disk with Varicam I will be editing a show next year that will be shot with Panasonic AJ-HDC27 Varicams and am looking to implement a workflow that will include direct-to-disk recording in tandem with tape recording to streamline the offline workflow... So SD DV video will be dumped to edit suites directly from disk and DVCPro HD tapes will be used for the program online later. However no disk is available to work with that camera (it only offers SDI out). I thought I was doomed, but I have since discovered this device from Miranda: http://www.miranda.com/product.php?i=226&l=1 So now my question is -- has anyone used one of these with a Firestore FS3 or similar recorder? And how well does it work? Will the Synchro-record options work? Is the timecode recording going to be accurate? Are there any other options? I want to record a DV video stream, ideally in Avid OMF format. It's important that all information from the tapes be present on the disks, and no extra on the disks (otherwise online compile will become a problem). Cheers, Dylan Reeve

August 14th, 2006, 06:05 PM	#13
Ben Mclaughlin Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 27	Direct to Disk very newb question i do not have an idea on how to record direct to disk, my thoughts were this from sony z1p run firewire cable to laptop -- then can i use adobe prem 2.0 to capture? -- i was going to store the HDV footage on a 480mps external HDD can anyone give me a basic walk through on the capture aspect?

August 15th, 2006, 02:27 PM	#14
Jesse Redman Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cedar Park, Texas Posts: 182	Ben, When I plug my Xl2 to my laptop (plug it in then turn on my XL2 or it could fry my firewire connection on my XL2) via firewire with no application running, it recognizes that I've plugged in my XL2, it brings up the windows capture program and I can save the captured file as a wmv, avi (standard DV format) or play with the capture specs. I can save it in any directory I choose. Once the file(s) are captured, I can edit them in any NLE I choose. Hope this helps. __________________ - Jesse XL2 - Vegas - DVDA - Sound Forge - Acid Pro - Cubase SX 3

August 15th, 2006, 06:10 PM	#15
Ben Mclaughlin Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 27	thanks ill give it a shot :)