1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Apple / Mac Post Production Solutions > Final Cut Pro X

Final Cut Pro X
The latest version of FCP from Apple.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old June 25th, 2011, 08:02 AM   #1
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cambridge UK
Posts: 2,835
1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

I've tried to keep up with all the frenzy about what FCP X will and won't do but I don't think I've found a specific answer to a question I have.

Does anyone know if FCP X can handle 1080p50 files? [or 1080p60 for those of you not in PAL land], e.g. from a Panasonic TM700, TM900 or some of the new Sony cams like the CX700, NX70U etc.

This format is fast becoming an (unofficial) standard on top end Prosumer cams that also shoot in compliant AVCHD formats, a market it seems FCP X might be targeted at - so I'd hope the answer is yes.

But does anyone know for sure?
__________________
Andy K Wilkinson - http://www.shootingimage.co.uk
Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production
Andy Wilkinson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 25th, 2011, 12:35 PM   #2
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Halden
Posts: 106
Re: 1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

Also looking for an answer to this, as I'm probably getting on of the 1080/60p cams for fun.

Apple - Final Cut Pro X - System Requirements and Tech Specs
Henrik Reach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 25th, 2011, 12:47 PM   #3
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 161
Re: 1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

I now have 1080p60 28Mbps footage from my Sony CX700v working in FCPX. FCPX doesn't recognize the .MTS files natively, and does not recognize the camera or files on the SD card. But I can convert the .MTS files to .M4V using Remux, and then import those into FCPX. ClipWrap currently doesn't work (I'm working with them on that). I have not yet tried Media Converter, but that may also work.
Terence Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 26th, 2011, 03:13 PM   #4
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 993
Re: 1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

.MTS files do not work. You will need to convert them using ClipWrap or something. For this reason, I will stick with Premiere Pro for these files. Easy ingestion should be top priority for Apple.
Floris van Eck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 20th, 2012, 08:38 PM   #5
Major Player
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fayetteville, GA
Posts: 772
Re: 1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

Any progress on getting TM900 60P (50P) easily into FCPX? I'm trying ClipWrap but unfortunately I'm a novice with Apple, being a long time user of Vegas, which eats everything.

Any advice on how to get 60P into FCP with the best value of high quality, fast, and small files?
Roger Shealy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 22nd, 2012, 06:02 PM   #6
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 161
Re: 1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

Did Clipwrap not work for you? If not, I would check with the company. They're constantly adding camera support, and may just need a little encouragement and a sample file.

My workflow is now to just use Clipwrap to copy files off the SD card to a hard drive and rewrap from .MTS to .MOV at the same time. Works like a charm.

-Terence
Terence Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 22nd, 2012, 06:31 PM   #7
Major Player
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fayetteville, GA
Posts: 772
Re: 1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

Thanks for the info. I'm using the trial version and being new to Mac and FCPX, I might be causing the problems. I used ClipWrap to process the .MTS file to the desktop, then tried to copy the .mov file to the FCP folder and it doesn't copy to the folder. Used import and got it into the project, but its very jumpy. I'm using a new 13" MacAir i5, which I know is a stretch, but 7D .mov files are working fine so far.

Last edited by Roger Shealy; March 22nd, 2012 at 07:42 PM.
Roger Shealy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 23rd, 2012, 10:39 AM   #8
Major Player
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Southport, England
Posts: 621
Re: 1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

I used "Toast Titanium" to convert , 50p .mts files into MPEG 4 I think and then into a FCPX project in 1080p25. They play real time, no audio delay sort of thing. Trouble is I can't remember exactly what I did but it eventually worked. I'll be having another go.


Ron
Ronald Jackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 23rd, 2012, 10:58 AM   #9
Inner Circle
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cambridge UK
Posts: 2,835
Re: 1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

Just to close the loop on this (from my perspective as the OP), in the end I went to Adobe Production Premium CS 5.5 towards the end of last year as there were too many unknowns about FCPX at that point.

CS5.5 works brilliantly and I can edit everything that I throw at it without any transcoding, including 1080p50 out of the TM900, Canon 7D footage and XDCAM EX3, all in the same 1080p timeline etc. Rendering out to final formats is also razor fast on this powerful Mac Pro too.

It seems a bit strange that now FCPX has been out a while (and has had the odd update) that 1080p50/60 .MTS AVCHD2 files native editing is still absent from the feature set. Footage from cams shooting in this format must be even more prevalent than when I first asked the question. About time Apple got their finger out.
__________________
Andy K Wilkinson - http://www.shootingimage.co.uk
Cambridge (UK) Corporate Video Production
Andy Wilkinson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 24th, 2012, 11:26 AM   #10
Major Player
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Fayetteville, GA
Posts: 772
Re: 1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

Andy, I have CS5(win7) but haven't undertaken the learning curve. Thought I'd give FCPX a try, hoping it would be a little lighter than CS. We'll see...
Roger Shealy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 28th, 2012, 06:40 PM   #11
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 161
Re: 1080p50 (and 1080p60) 28Mbps and FCP X

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Shealy View Post
..., but its very jumpy. I'm using a new 13" MacAir i5, which I know is a stretch, but 7D .mov files are working fine so far.
I suspect your MacBook Air can't handle the 60p footage. I'm using a MacBook Pro i7 (Quad 2.2 GHz with the AMD Radeon 6750M) running Snow Leopard -- it can handle the 60p but it's definitely working hard. FCPX works better than Premiere Elements. I don't have Premiere Pro so can't make that comparison.

I also see differences in playback smoothness between QuickLook (press space), QuickTime X, QuickTime 7, and VLC Player (which can play the original .MTS files). For some reason QuickTime X has to work harder, and seems to be worse on Lion than Snow Leopard. I needed a second computer last November that could play the raw 60p 28 Mbps .MOV files, so I went down to the Apple Store and started testing. Everything had problems playing the 60p .MOV files using QuickTime X (including systems nearly identical to my MacBook Pro but running Lion), but QuickLook was much better (even the cheapest Mac Mini worked fine). I suspect the QuickTime X problems might also show up in FCPX.

I meant to report it at the time, but forgot. Guess I should probably repeat the testing first, though.

-Terence
Terence Murphy is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Apple / Mac Post Production Solutions > Final Cut Pro X

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:35 PM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network