Printing to Tape with ProRes in FCP at DVinfo.net

Jonathan Bufkin · August 6th, 2008, 12:20 PM

I've heard that this is not possible but I'm not sure. Have any of you tried this? If not is there a codec that would work best to retain the original resolution? The original footage is HDV captured into FCP as ProRes and now that the project is edited I would love to archive it back to tape.

Rick L. Allen · August 6th, 2008, 03:34 PM

Hmm, that's odd. I'm outputting ProRes to a deck right now via my Kona LHe card. Original footage on XDCAM HD, HDV & DVCAM input via HD SDI to a ProRes422(HQ) timeline.

Jonathan Bufkin · August 7th, 2008, 07:39 AM

Hey Rick,

Thanks for the response. I don't have a Kona card or this would be a non-issue. I simply converted the HDV to ProRes on the way in and have edited my project. Now I want to print it back to tape. Anyone have a workflow for this setup?

Rick L. Allen · August 7th, 2008, 08:05 AM

Print it back to HDV or DVCAM. ProRes is an editing/storage codec and you need a Kona or Blackmagic card to transcode and output to HDCAM, Digibeta, Beta, etc.

Shaun Roemich · August 7th, 2008, 08:14 AM

Haven't tried it yet but if you nest your ProRes sequence into an HDV sequence, render it and then do a Print to Tape, you should be done.

Benjamin Hill · August 7th, 2008, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan Bufkin

I've heard that this is not possible but I'm not sure. Have any of you tried this? If not is there a codec that would work best to retain the original resolution? The original footage is HDV captured into FCP as ProRes and now that the project is edited I would love to archive it back to tape.

As Shaun says the HDV option is straightforward at least in theory, although I have never had reliable results printing HDV. Our workflow is HDV>ProRes>HDCAM. Let us know what kind of luck you have printing to HDV.

Jonathan Bufkin · August 7th, 2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun Roemich

Haven't tried it yet but if you nest your ProRes sequence into an HDV sequence, render it and then do a Print to Tape, you should be done.

Thanks Shaun! I'll give it a shot.

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Originally Posted by Benjamin Hill

As Shaun says the HDV option is straightforward at least in theory, although I have never had reliable results printing HDV. Our workflow is HDV>ProRes>HDCAM. Let us know what kind of luck you have printing to HDV.

Benjamin,

I will let you know for sure. What's your workflow for HDCAM in the event this doesn't work?

Robert Lane · August 7th, 2008, 08:52 AM

Jonathan,

The ProRes back to HDV should be the best bet for you.

Going out to HDCAM isn't possible unless you have a KONA, BlackMagic, V3HD or IO box to connect to the HDCAM deck - and you'd have to either rent or own an HDCAM deck.

Jonathan Bufkin · August 7th, 2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Lane

Jonathan,

The ProRes back to HDV should be the best bet for you.

Going out to HDCAM isn't possible unless you have a KONA, BlackMagic, V3HD or IO box to connect to the HDCAM deck - and you'd have to either rent or own an HDCAM deck.

Thanks for the info. I haven't used HDCAM obviously :)

August 6th, 2008, 12:20 PM	#1
Jonathan Bufkin Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 253	Printing to Tape with ProRes in FCP I've heard that this is not possible but I'm not sure. Have any of you tried this? If not is there a codec that would work best to retain the original resolution? The original footage is HDV captured into FCP as ProRes and now that the project is edited I would love to archive it back to tape. __________________ Jon Bufkin focalpointcinematic.com

August 6th, 2008, 03:34 PM	#2
Rick L. Allen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 535	Hmm, that's odd. I'm outputting ProRes to a deck right now via my Kona LHe card. Original footage on XDCAM HD, HDV & DVCAM input via HD SDI to a ProRes422(HQ) timeline. __________________ "The good thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not." Neil deGrasse Tyson https://www.nautilusproductions.com/

August 7th, 2008, 07:39 AM	#3
Jonathan Bufkin Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 253	Hey Rick, Thanks for the response. I don't have a Kona card or this would be a non-issue. I simply converted the HDV to ProRes on the way in and have edited my project. Now I want to print it back to tape. Anyone have a workflow for this setup? __________________ Jon Bufkin focalpointcinematic.com

August 7th, 2008, 08:05 AM	#4
Rick L. Allen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 535	Print it back to HDV or DVCAM. ProRes is an editing/storage codec and you need a Kona or Blackmagic card to transcode and output to HDCAM, Digibeta, Beta, etc. __________________ "The good thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not." Neil deGrasse Tyson https://www.nautilusproductions.com/

August 7th, 2008, 08:14 AM	#5
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	Haven't tried it yet but if you nest your ProRes sequence into an HDV sequence, render it and then do a Print to Tape, you should be done. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

August 7th, 2008, 08:52 AM	#8
Robert Lane Go Go Godzilla Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ USA Posts: 2,788 Images: 15	Jonathan, The ProRes back to HDV should be the best bet for you. Going out to HDCAM isn't possible unless you have a KONA, BlackMagic, V3HD or IO box to connect to the HDCAM deck - and you'd have to either rent or own an HDCAM deck. __________________ Robert Lane Producer/Creator - Bike Pilots TV