No Audio going out FCP4/G5 at DVinfo.net

J. Clayton Stansberry · October 21st, 2003, 08:04 PM

I am new to Mac's and FCP4 and began editing and encountered a slight problem. Ok, here's the set up: G5 w/FCP -> Firewire to Sony ->HI8 - everything is cool with capture - it captures video and sound. Here's the problem: G5 -> Audio Out on back -> 1/8" to Stereo RCA -> Stereo Amp -> speakers = no sound on log and capture in preview. The only way I get sound is the firewire out to camcorder to VTR to Amp. This is fine, but I don't understand why it won't go out of the computer straight into the AMP and play sound while previewing. iTunes works fine out the back of the computer into the amp. All computer sounds work fine out from the computer into the amp. FCP preview does not. I have been in and turned off External Video as it said to do on the FCP site - no worky. I went into Audio/Video Settings and set Audio to "Built in Audio" - no worky. I must be missing something, or it just simply doesn't work like I want it to, but I just don't understand why (is this a Mac illiteracy issue?). After I capture, the sound is there and works just fine through the amp. I have searched several different sites and some people offered some advice, but I tried it all and it didn't work. Anybody have an answer??? Many thanks in advance.

Clay...

Glenn Chan · October 21st, 2003, 08:40 PM

You can turn the speaker option on but I don't recommend it.

Get a splitter cable (female - 2male) or move cables around when you capture.

J. Clayton Stansberry · October 21st, 2003, 08:47 PM

The speaker option in Audio/Video Settings? If so, I did that and it still didn't work. Any other recommendations? Thanks.

J. Clayton Stansberry · October 21st, 2003, 08:51 PM

Oh, one more thing....the problem isn't in capture, just in logging the clips before capturing. Capturing is fine - audio is fine only after capturing.

Jeff Donald · October 21st, 2003, 09:52 PM

In System Preferences>Sound, what is the output set to?

J. Clayton Stansberry · October 21st, 2003, 10:10 PM

System Preferences>Sound>Ouput>Built-in-Audio

Jeff Donald · October 21st, 2003, 10:25 PM

That sends sounds to the Macs internal speaker, not through the connection at the back. Are there other options?

J. Clayton Stansberry · October 22nd, 2003, 08:34 AM

"That sends sounds to the Macs internal speaker, not through the connection at the back. Are there other options?"

Doesn't it send it through both? And, if one is connected, the other is disabled, i.e. if the plug on the back is plugged in, the internal speaker doesn't play sound, but if it is unplugged, sound plays on the internal speaker. As far as I can tell, there is no "setting" to choose between the two. It seems they are interrelated and work off and because of each other. Also, it probably is hooked up to the front head phone jack so that if plugged in, the internal speaker doesn't work...haven't checked that.

There is one other option that says "Digital Out" or something like that. I don't have 20 feet of Digital wire, and probably couldn't afford it, but that's why they also put an analog hook up too, right?

Anyone know????
Thanks again for the help...
Clay

Jeff Donald · October 22nd, 2003, 11:55 AM

What model Mac do you have? Most of the newer rear outputs are digital. Depending on the model, the only analog out may be the headphone jack.

J. Clayton Stansberry · October 22nd, 2003, 12:00 PM

Hey Jeff,

I have a Dual G5 - it has the digital out and the analog out on the back, and the headphone jack on the front. The sound out on the back works with the computer sounds and iTunes, just not with logging clips in FCP4. Thanks for any input.

Clay...

Jeff Donald · October 22nd, 2003, 12:14 PM

OK, just making sure. There was a period of about 2 years recently, when Power Macs only had digital out. It probably is an FCP setting not set right. Try using the headphones or a single cable just to isolate the problem. A remote chance your choice of connectors (stereo, mono etc.) could be causing problems. I'm not using FCP 4 yet, neither is the school I teach at.

Michael Botkin · October 28th, 2003, 12:25 PM

Just in case you haven't found an answer, you cannot monitor audio when capturing in FCP 4. Only way to monitor during capture would be through your output source, ie: camera. I'm reading that from the FCP 4 manual. Hope this helps,

Michael

J. Clayton Stansberry · October 28th, 2003, 03:15 PM

Michael,

You can monitor while logging and capturing. I figured it out! The sound is a little off while logging, but works. The only way to line it up would be to go out of the camera into a monitor or amp that way.

To do it, you have to go into your presets and create a new capture preset, copying the one that is set to. In the preset editor go to the advanced button on the audio settings and turn speakers to ON. If you have problems with playback sound (like pops or sync issues), turn them to OFF while capturing.

Hope this helps if you are trying to do the same thing...

Glenn Chan · October 28th, 2003, 08:47 PM

For some reason I stopped reading this thread. Sorry I didn't chime in earlier with the location of the speaker option.

J. Clayton Stansberry · October 28th, 2003, 09:14 PM

Thanks Glenn,

Figured it out, but after using it I think the best thing (I know, I know we all know the the best thing) to do is get a deck and monitor and do sound editing that way! Hopefully I will have that money soon!!!

October 21st, 2003, 08:04 PM	#1
J. Clayton Stansberry Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 316	No Audio going out FCP4/G5 I am new to Mac's and FCP4 and began editing and encountered a slight problem. Ok, here's the set up: G5 w/FCP -> Firewire to Sony ->HI8 - everything is cool with capture - it captures video and sound. Here's the problem: G5 -> Audio Out on back -> 1/8" to Stereo RCA -> Stereo Amp -> speakers = no sound on log and capture in preview. The only way I get sound is the firewire out to camcorder to VTR to Amp. This is fine, but I don't understand why it won't go out of the computer straight into the AMP and play sound while previewing. iTunes works fine out the back of the computer into the amp. All computer sounds work fine out from the computer into the amp. FCP preview does not. I have been in and turned off External Video as it said to do on the FCP site - no worky. I went into Audio/Video Settings and set Audio to "Built in Audio" - no worky. I must be missing something, or it just simply doesn't work like I want it to, but I just don't understand why (is this a Mac illiteracy issue?). After I capture, the sound is there and works just fine through the amp. I have searched several different sites and some people offered some advice, but I tried it all and it didn't work. Anybody have an answer??? Many thanks in advance. Clay... __________________ I understand everything about nothing.

October 21st, 2003, 08:47 PM	#3
J. Clayton Stansberry Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 316	The speaker option in Audio/Video Settings? If so, I did that and it still didn't work. Any other recommendations? Thanks. __________________ I understand everything about nothing.

October 21st, 2003, 08:51 PM	#4
J. Clayton Stansberry Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 316	Oh, one more thing....the problem isn't in capture, just in logging the clips before capturing. Capturing is fine - audio is fine only after capturing. __________________ I understand everything about nothing.

October 21st, 2003, 09:52 PM	#5
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	In System Preferences>Sound, what is the output set to? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 21st, 2003, 10:10 PM	#6
J. Clayton Stansberry Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 316	System Preferences>Sound>Ouput>Built-in-Audio __________________ I understand everything about nothing.

October 21st, 2003, 08:40 PM	#2
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	You can turn the speaker option on but I don't recommend it. Get a splitter cable (female - 2male) or move cables around when you capture.

October 21st, 2003, 10:25 PM	#7
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	That sends sounds to the Macs internal speaker, not through the connection at the back. Are there other options? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 22nd, 2003, 08:34 AM	#8
J. Clayton Stansberry Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 316	"That sends sounds to the Macs internal speaker, not through the connection at the back. Are there other options?" Doesn't it send it through both? And, if one is connected, the other is disabled, i.e. if the plug on the back is plugged in, the internal speaker doesn't play sound, but if it is unplugged, sound plays on the internal speaker. As far as I can tell, there is no "setting" to choose between the two. It seems they are interrelated and work off and because of each other. Also, it probably is hooked up to the front head phone jack so that if plugged in, the internal speaker doesn't work...haven't checked that. There is one other option that says "Digital Out" or something like that. I don't have 20 feet of Digital wire, and probably couldn't afford it, but that's why they also put an analog hook up too, right? Anyone know???? Thanks again for the help... Clay __________________ I understand everything about nothing.

October 22nd, 2003, 11:55 AM	#9
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	What model Mac do you have? Most of the newer rear outputs are digital. Depending on the model, the only analog out may be the headphone jack. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 22nd, 2003, 12:00 PM	#10
J. Clayton Stansberry Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 316	Hey Jeff, I have a Dual G5 - it has the digital out and the analog out on the back, and the headphone jack on the front. The sound out on the back works with the computer sounds and iTunes, just not with logging clips in FCP4. Thanks for any input. Clay... __________________ I understand everything about nothing.

October 22nd, 2003, 12:14 PM	#11
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	OK, just making sure. There was a period of about 2 years recently, when Power Macs only had digital out. It probably is an FCP setting not set right. Try using the headphones or a single cable just to isolate the problem. A remote chance your choice of connectors (stereo, mono etc.) could be causing problems. I'm not using FCP 4 yet, neither is the school I teach at. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 28th, 2003, 12:25 PM	#12
Michael Botkin Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cary, NC Posts: 70	Just in case you haven't found an answer, you cannot monitor audio when capturing in FCP 4. Only way to monitor during capture would be through your output source, ie: camera. I'm reading that from the FCP 4 manual. Hope this helps, Michael

October 28th, 2003, 03:15 PM	#13
J. Clayton Stansberry Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 316	Michael, You can monitor while logging and capturing. I figured it out! The sound is a little off while logging, but works. The only way to line it up would be to go out of the camera into a monitor or amp that way. To do it, you have to go into your presets and create a new capture preset, copying the one that is set to. In the preset editor go to the advanced button on the audio settings and turn speakers to ON. If you have problems with playback sound (like pops or sync issues), turn them to OFF while capturing. Hope this helps if you are trying to do the same thing... __________________ I understand everything about nothing.

October 28th, 2003, 08:47 PM	#14
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	For some reason I stopped reading this thread. Sorry I didn't chime in earlier with the location of the speaker option.

October 28th, 2003, 09:14 PM	#15
J. Clayton Stansberry Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 316	Thanks Glenn, Figured it out, but after using it I think the best thing (I know, I know we all know the the best thing) to do is get a deck and monitor and do sound editing that way! Hopefully I will have that money soon!!! __________________ I understand everything about nothing.