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Old April 10th, 2009, 10:23 AM   #1
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How can I achieve this look?

Starting from around 150 seconds in or so basically the whole part thats not just cool graphics. btw I have access to most cs4 stuff, final cut studio 2 and shake. Also, whenever I do this optical flow retiming it dosent look as good as in this video. It has a few slow motion clips closer to the end. thanks.

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Old April 10th, 2009, 11:17 AM   #2
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you should try Red Giant Software: Magic Bullet Looks 1.2
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Old April 10th, 2009, 11:25 AM   #3
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Welcome to the forums, Keegan.

If you have access to all those tools then you have everything you need to reproduce any look you can come up with. The RG software simply automates what you'd have to do manually in color-correction and filters.

Optical flow doesn't really do that great a job unless you have massive processing power and can boost settings that would clean up the final result. Unfortunately the O.F. filter/plug-in takes excessively long to render. And alternative - albeit pricey - is a plug-in called Twixtor. It does a far better job, is much easier to control and doesn't take as long to render. But as I say, it's costly.
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Old April 10th, 2009, 11:26 AM   #4
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Starting from around 150 seconds in or so basically the whole part thats not just cool graphics.
You're speaking of the clip where the bike handles are in the foreground and the people in the background? Giving your video the same look is going to entail lots of colour, saturation, and contrast tweaking in something like Apple's Color, Colorista, or something similar.

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whenever I do this optical flow retiming it dosent look as good as in this video.
Not all clips will be able to achieve similar slo-mo quality. It depends first on the quality of the picture and how much movement there is. In the video you linked, the camera is pretty steady and only the cyclist is in motion (the background does not change). I don't know what your footage is, but just because something works for one piece of footage does not mean it will work for all.
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Old April 10th, 2009, 12:25 PM   #5
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Welcome to the forums, Keegan.

If you have access to all those tools then you have everything you need to reproduce any look you can come up with. The RG software simply automates what you'd have to do manually in color-correction and filters.

Optical flow doesn't really do that great a job unless you have massive processing power and can boost settings that would clean up the final result. Unfortunately the O.F. filter/plug-in takes excessively long to render. And alternative - albeit pricey - is a plug-in called Twixtor. It does a far better job, is much easier to control and doesn't take as long to render. But as I say, it's costly.
Yeah I have a 2 x 2.26 ghz mac pro with 8 gb of ram right now so it's relatively fast but I know what you mean, it takes ages. I'll look into twixtor. thanks
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Old April 10th, 2009, 12:29 PM   #6
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You're speaking of the clip where the bike handles are in the foreground and the people in the background? Giving your video the same look is going to entail lots of colour, saturation, and contrast tweaking in something like Apple's Color, Colorista, or something similar.
Yeah I have apple color right now so I'll try it out. I kind of like the film effect where the edges are a little blurred.


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Not all clips will be able to achieve similar slo-mo quality. It depends first on the quality of the picture and how much movement there is. In the video you linked, the camera is pretty steady and only the cyclist is in motion (the background does not change). I don't know what your footage is, but just because something works for one piece of footage does not mean it will work for all.
Yeah there wouldnt be any movement it would be with a tripod. Would a high shutter speed be appropriate?
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Old April 10th, 2009, 03:42 PM   #7
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I'd try messing with some of the presets in Apple Color (comes with Final Cut Studio 2). Check out the Bleach Bypass preset. (I think that's what it's called)

I've never used Optical Flow, but I really like what the guy did with it in that video. I think I'm going to go drop some acid. hehehehe (joke)
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Old April 12th, 2009, 12:24 PM   #8
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uh i just tried using optical flow but the frames kind of look really blended still.

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uh i just tried using optical flow but the frames kind of look really blended still.
Actually, that looks about what should be expected. It's not magic; don't expect miracles. It's not going to look the same as if you did slow motion "in camera." Look closely at the example you linked in your OP, it has even more blending and morphing artifacts than your test (look at the bike's wheels).
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Actually, that looks about what should be expected. It's not magic; don't expect miracles. It's not going to look the same as if you did slow motion "in camera." Look closely at the example you linked in your OP, it has even more blending and morphing artifacts than your test (look at the bike's wheels).
oh well maybe its not as bad as i thought.
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Old April 12th, 2009, 01:06 PM   #11
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oh well maybe its not as bad as i thought.
I would be satisfied with a result like that.
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