NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Jeff Donald · November 8th, 2004, 03:06 PM

I would wait if your not have any issues with the announced updates for the programs listed. I updated one of my G4's and I'm having a number of issues with Safari, Mail, and booting up (very slow). I probably won't upgrade the schools G5's until December, when the students go on break.

Dylan Couper · November 8th, 2004, 03:37 PM

I asked him first, but he didn't know.

Yes, all he needs is to see the video, so he can cut music for it. The video is 10 minutes, so the it isn't going to fit on a CD without some compression.

Can I just burn a CD off my PC with the video in Quicktime format?

Boyd Ostroff · November 8th, 2004, 04:17 PM

CD's burned on PC's should be readable on the Mac. If you make some sort of Quicktime file that fits the CD then he should be able to open it unless you're using a non-standard CODEC.

Joshua Starnes · November 8th, 2004, 04:18 PM

The easiest way is to burn a QuickTime .mov file - it's cross platform and easily read by either computer. QT on the Mac will handle most .avi's and .mpg's, but sometimes odd encoding will give it a fit. I've never had a problem with a .mov file, though.

I often go back and forth at home because I cut on FCP, but do my sound work in Sound Forge.

Vic Owen · November 8th, 2004, 05:08 PM

I had enough problems with 10.3.5 that I made the leap. (I couldn't easily go back to 10.3.4 since I recently upgraded directly from Cheetah to 10.3.5.)

I completed a project last night with no problems. I even turned the effects back on, with no crashes. Still early, but I'm hoping.

Once interesting new "effect", though, is that the Viewer and Canvas video appears slightly out of focus when running -- it sharpens up when stopped. That's even with the Res set to high.

It's still OK on the external monitor, so it's not a big problem, but it's one I hadn't seen before 10.3.6.

Gotta love Apple....!

Dylan Couper · November 8th, 2004, 07:17 PM

Done!
Thanks guys!

Christian Bovine · November 8th, 2004, 07:52 PM

I have the VCR hooked up through the DVI to Video Adapter and am looking to capture with Final Cut Pro and I changed the settings to uncontrollable. The problem is FCP is not recognizing the VCR.....?

Any suggestions why?

Mike Hanlon · November 9th, 2004, 01:02 PM

Your description is not very detailed, but from what I gather you are trying to capture video from a VCR through the DVI/VGA port of your Mac (what model?).

The DVI/VGA port does not do video in, only video out.

The traditional method to capture VHS material is to connect it to a DV (or Digital8) camera or deck that does "pass through" conversion and import the video over the camera's firewire.

Mike.

Christian Bovine · November 9th, 2004, 01:14 PM

So you are saying the Adapter is only for exporting to a VCR or TV, it isn't used to import anything...? Cause that could be my problem.

I have a G5 and I have the VCR hooked up using the yellow video wire hooked up to the DVI adapter. I figure this would be all I needed to do but like i said it did not recognized the VCR.

I have a GL2 that I could use but the VCR is pretty old and it doesn't have a S-video outlet and since I have the adapter I thought I could just hook the VCR up to the G5 and it should work. But it i guess it is only for exporting...

Now, can I go through the GL2 into the computer without having to copy it to a DV then capturing it?

Mike Hanlon · November 9th, 2004, 01:31 PM

The GL2 will do nicely. Connect the GL2 to the VCR with the cable that came with the GL2 (minijack on one end and 3 RCA jacks, white/red/yellow at the other. You may have to go into a GL2 menu to emable the pass through mode, check your manual.

Connect the GL2 to the computer via FireWire. In FCP the device preset is "not controllable". To do the capture bring up the Log and Capture window, start the playback on the VCR, hit Capture Now to start capturing. When you want to stop the capture hit esc.

Mike.

Christian Bovine · November 9th, 2004, 01:33 PM

Thanks Mike I appreciate the quick response.

Cannon Pearson · November 9th, 2004, 06:36 PM

Some of the audio waveforms in a sequence in FCE are missing. I know that there is audio there, because I can hear it. One clip even has about a third of the waveform and then it just stops.

Has anyone seen this or know how to fix it?

John Sandel · November 9th, 2004, 06:39 PM

No, & I haven't experienced it yet. But I'd like to hear about a fix, too.

Anybody?

JS

Jeff Donald · November 9th, 2004, 06:45 PM

Try trashing the preferences files.

Mike Hanlon · November 9th, 2004, 07:31 PM

I would quit FCE and through away the files in the folder "Waveform Cache Files", then relaunch.

Mike.

November 8th, 2004, 03:06 PM	#1576
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I would wait if your not have any issues with the announced updates for the programs listed. I updated one of my G4's and I'm having a number of issues with Safari, Mail, and booting up (very slow). I probably won't upgrade the schools G5's until December, when the students go on break. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 8th, 2004, 03:37 PM	#1577
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I asked him first, but he didn't know. Yes, all he needs is to see the video, so he can cut music for it. The video is 10 minutes, so the it isn't going to fit on a CD without some compression. Can I just burn a CD off my PC with the video in Quicktime format? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

November 8th, 2004, 04:18 PM	#1579
Joshua Starnes Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 356	Re: Mac and PC, can I share the love? The easiest way is to burn a QuickTime .mov file - it's cross platform and easily read by either computer. QT on the Mac will handle most .avi's and .mpg's, but sometimes odd encoding will give it a fit. I've never had a problem with a .mov file, though. I often go back and forth at home because I cut on FCP, but do my sound work in Sound Forge.

November 8th, 2004, 05:08 PM	#1580
Vic Owen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 540	I had enough problems with 10.3.5 that I made the leap. (I couldn't easily go back to 10.3.4 since I recently upgraded directly from Cheetah to 10.3.5.) I completed a project last night with no problems. I even turned the effects back on, with no crashes. Still early, but I'm hoping. Once interesting new "effect", though, is that the Viewer and Canvas video appears slightly out of focus when running -- it sharpens up when stopped. That's even with the Res set to high. It's still OK on the external monitor, so it's not a big problem, but it's one I hadn't seen before 10.3.6. Gotta love Apple....! __________________ -- Vic Owen --

November 8th, 2004, 07:17 PM	#1581
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Done! Thanks guys! __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

November 8th, 2004, 04:17 PM	#1578
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	CD's burned on PC's should be readable on the Mac. If you make some sort of Quicktime file that fits the CD then he should be able to open it unless you're using a non-standard CODEC.

November 8th, 2004, 07:52 PM	#1582
Christian Bovine New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 19	Capturing straight from VCR....?? I have the VCR hooked up through the DVI to Video Adapter and am looking to capture with Final Cut Pro and I changed the settings to uncontrollable. The problem is FCP is not recognizing the VCR.....? Any suggestions why? __________________ Cb - philly

November 9th, 2004, 01:02 PM	#1583
Mike Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 180	Your description is not very detailed, but from what I gather you are trying to capture video from a VCR through the DVI/VGA port of your Mac (what model?). The DVI/VGA port does not do video in, only video out. The traditional method to capture VHS material is to connect it to a DV (or Digital8) camera or deck that does "pass through" conversion and import the video over the camera's firewire. Mike. __________________ VM Productions

November 9th, 2004, 01:14 PM	#1584
Christian Bovine New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 19	So you are saying the Adapter is only for exporting to a VCR or TV, it isn't used to import anything...? Cause that could be my problem. I have a G5 and I have the VCR hooked up using the yellow video wire hooked up to the DVI adapter. I figure this would be all I needed to do but like i said it did not recognized the VCR. I have a GL2 that I could use but the VCR is pretty old and it doesn't have a S-video outlet and since I have the adapter I thought I could just hook the VCR up to the G5 and it should work. But it i guess it is only for exporting... Now, can I go through the GL2 into the computer without having to copy it to a DV then capturing it? __________________ Cb - philly

November 9th, 2004, 01:31 PM	#1585
Mike Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 180	The GL2 will do nicely. Connect the GL2 to the VCR with the cable that came with the GL2 (minijack on one end and 3 RCA jacks, white/red/yellow at the other. You may have to go into a GL2 menu to emable the pass through mode, check your manual. Connect the GL2 to the computer via FireWire. In FCP the device preset is "not controllable". To do the capture bring up the Log and Capture window, start the playback on the VCR, hit Capture Now to start capturing. When you want to stop the capture hit esc. Mike. __________________ VM Productions

November 9th, 2004, 01:33 PM	#1586
Christian Bovine New Boot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Posts: 19	Thanks Mike I appreciate the quick response. __________________ Cb - philly

November 9th, 2004, 06:36 PM	#1587
Cannon Pearson Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 123	Missing audio waveforms in FCE Some of the audio waveforms in a sequence in FCE are missing. I know that there is audio there, because I can hear it. One clip even has about a third of the waveform and then it just stops. Has anyone seen this or know how to fix it?

November 9th, 2004, 06:39 PM	#1588
John Sandel Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: stately Eldora Road Posts: 386	No, & I haven't experienced it yet. But I'd like to hear about a fix, too. Anybody? JS

November 9th, 2004, 06:45 PM	#1589
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Try trashing the preferences files. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

November 9th, 2004, 07:31 PM	#1590
Mike Hanlon Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 180	I would quit FCE and through away the files in the folder "Waveform Cache Files", then relaunch. Mike. __________________ VM Productions