NLE Mac / Final Cut questions from 2004

Steven Davis · October 20th, 2004, 02:22 PM

Hi gang (figuretively speaking)

I am looking for an affordable monitor solution. Can I get away with just the 4 or 5 hundered buck monitors that B&H offers?

Jeff Donald · October 20th, 2004, 02:39 PM

What type of work do you do?

Gary Chavez · October 20th, 2004, 03:09 PM

I am digitizing from a MiniDV tape for the first time.
in to my dsr-45 componet video thru the kona SD into fcp 4.5
it looks terrible. artifacting and jumpy and every other thing you dont want.
what is up?

Steven Davis · October 20th, 2004, 06:47 PM

I do weddings and special occasion video mostly. At this time a post production monitor is what I need more.

Boyd Ostroff · October 20th, 2004, 08:59 PM

Sorry, maybe I'm not clear on what you're trying to do. Why are you sending DV through component and then digitizing again with the kona? Why not just use firewire (i.Link) directly into the computer? This would transfer the data directly without any loss. It appears you are now performing digital>analog>digital conversion which one might expect to create problems. But I don't have either a DSR-45 or a Kona SD card, so maybe there's some reason for doing it your way?

Laurence Maher · October 21st, 2004, 03:09 AM

I've got FCP HD on a Mac G5 with dual 2 gig processors. When I import things into Peak Express, I just get a massive peaked audio noise signal upon playback. I assuming I'm doing something wrong. How do I import .wav files, etc. and work with them. I assume Peak Express is Apple's answer to Sound Forge?

Thanks!

Gary Chavez · October 21st, 2004, 07:15 AM

because its easier to put it in the deck that to crawl under the desk and find the firewire input.
plus, i've never done it that way before.does FCP have top be open to see it?

Stephen Schleicher · October 21st, 2004, 11:24 AM

Connect your deck or camera via firewire to your Final Cut Pro system. You may have to go under one of the menus to set the configuration to use firewire instead of the Kona card, but the results will be worth it.

Digital is Digital is Digital you wont notice any loss from the original quality.

Cheers
Stephen Schleicher
www.mindspring.com/~schleicher
home of the Final Cut Pro Quick Tip series.

Gary Chavez · October 21st, 2004, 11:31 AM

Thank you.

Kyle De Priest · October 21st, 2004, 01:10 PM

Here's my dilmma,
I shot a video on my canon GL1. Now, as many of you know, it puts these weird black bars on each side of the frame. Well, I shot the thing on a green screen and am pasting the cut out image on a new frame that is 16:9 format. The problem I'm having is that it still continues to put those stupid black bars on either side of the image. I've tried to garbage matte them out, but haven't had any luck. Any idea what I can do to get those damn things to go away?
-Kyle

Kyle De Priest · October 21st, 2004, 01:12 PM

HA!... never mind, I figured it out. This is gonna be cool!
-Kyle

Andrew Hogan · October 22nd, 2004, 12:18 AM

Hi Michael,

you don't need to ChromaKey it. Just crop and/or resize the video you want to play on the video screen and then use distort in the Browser window in FCP to place the corners of this video onto the your movie "video screen"

does this make sense?

Laurence Maher · October 22nd, 2004, 06:22 AM

Just lost a week worth of vocals inside of Macintosh's Garage Band software program, and here's why . . .

So I record the vocals in song A, and then I save another copy as B. Eventually, I work on B so much that it's now better than the original A. So I decide to delete the song A. When I do, I find out that any of the vocals I recordeed in A that I also used for B are now erased.

That's like copying a paragraph out of a word document, pasting it into another document, revising the entire thing in the second document, and then losing your finished product because you deleted the first document that you no longer need.

I really hope someone at Mac gets fired over that line of programming some day. The stumbling blocks we deal with as film makers!!!!!!

Jeff Donald · October 22nd, 2004, 07:18 AM

Garage Band is a "free" application for many (most?) Mac users, as it comes bundled with the other iLife products. iMovie behaves in a similar fashion. These applications are not meant for professional use, but rather the home hobbyist. Consider Apple's professional program, Soundtrack, for your professional needs.

Michael Gibbons · October 22nd, 2004, 08:21 AM

Yes,
Thanks!
Micahel

October 20th, 2004, 02:22 PM	#1456
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Post Production Monitors Hi gang (figuretively speaking) I am looking for an affordable monitor solution. Can I get away with just the 4 or 5 hundered buck monitors that B&H offers? __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

October 20th, 2004, 02:39 PM	#1457
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	What type of work do you do? __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 20th, 2004, 03:09 PM	#1458
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	artifacts in Mini DV I am digitizing from a MiniDV tape for the first time. in to my dsr-45 componet video thru the kona SD into fcp 4.5 it looks terrible. artifacting and jumpy and every other thing you dont want. what is up?

October 20th, 2004, 06:47 PM	#1459
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	I do weddings and special occasion video mostly. At this time a post production monitor is what I need more. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

October 21st, 2004, 03:09 AM	#1461
Laurence Maher Join Date: May 2004 Location: denton, texas, usa Posts: 416	Can someone answer this Peak Express 3.3 for OS X question? I've got FCP HD on a Mac G5 with dual 2 gig processors. When I import things into Peak Express, I just get a massive peaked audio noise signal upon playback. I assuming I'm doing something wrong. How do I import .wav files, etc. and work with them. I assume Peak Express is Apple's answer to Sound Forge? Thanks!

October 20th, 2004, 08:59 PM	#1460
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,787	Sorry, maybe I'm not clear on what you're trying to do. Why are you sending DV through component and then digitizing again with the kona? Why not just use firewire (i.Link) directly into the computer? This would transfer the data directly without any loss. It appears you are now performing digital>analog>digital conversion which one might expect to create problems. But I don't have either a DSR-45 or a Kona SD card, so maybe there's some reason for doing it your way?

October 21st, 2004, 07:15 AM	#1462
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	because its easier to put it in the deck that to crawl under the desk and find the firewire input. plus, i've never done it that way before.does FCP have top be open to see it?

October 21st, 2004, 11:24 AM	#1463
Stephen Schleicher Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hays, KS Posts: 188	Connect your deck or camera via firewire to your Final Cut Pro system. You may have to go under one of the menus to set the configuration to use firewire instead of the Kona card, but the results will be worth it. Digital is Digital is Digital you wont notice any loss from the original quality. Cheers Stephen Schleicher www.mindspring.com/~schleicher home of the Final Cut Pro Quick Tip series. __________________ Stephen Schleicher www.stephenschleicher.com

October 21st, 2004, 11:31 AM	#1464
Gary Chavez Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 355	Thank you.

October 21st, 2004, 01:10 PM	#1465
Kyle De Priest Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 51	erasing black bars on sides from my GL1 Here's my dilmma, I shot a video on my canon GL1. Now, as many of you know, it puts these weird black bars on each side of the frame. Well, I shot the thing on a green screen and am pasting the cut out image on a new frame that is 16:9 format. The problem I'm having is that it still continues to put those stupid black bars on either side of the image. I've tried to garbage matte them out, but haven't had any luck. Any idea what I can do to get those damn things to go away? -Kyle

October 21st, 2004, 01:12 PM	#1466
Kyle De Priest Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 51	HA!... never mind, I figured it out. This is gonna be cool! -Kyle

October 22nd, 2004, 12:18 AM	#1467
Andrew Hogan Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Canberra AUSTRALIA Posts: 169	Hi Michael, you don't need to ChromaKey it. Just crop and/or resize the video you want to play on the video screen and then use distort in the Browser window in FCP to place the corners of this video onto the your movie "video screen" does this make sense?

October 22nd, 2004, 06:22 AM	#1468
Laurence Maher Join Date: May 2004 Location: denton, texas, usa Posts: 416	Warning: Do Not Delete Old "edl" Files In Garage Band Just lost a week worth of vocals inside of Macintosh's Garage Band software program, and here's why . . . So I record the vocals in song A, and then I save another copy as B. Eventually, I work on B so much that it's now better than the original A. So I decide to delete the song A. When I do, I find out that any of the vocals I recordeed in A that I also used for B are now erased. That's like copying a paragraph out of a word document, pasting it into another document, revising the entire thing in the second document, and then losing your finished product because you deleted the first document that you no longer need. I really hope someone at Mac gets fired over that line of programming some day. The stumbling blocks we deal with as film makers!!!!!!

October 22nd, 2004, 07:18 AM	#1469
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Garage Band is a "free" application for many (most?) Mac users, as it comes bundled with the other iLife products. iMovie behaves in a similar fashion. These applications are not meant for professional use, but rather the home hobbyist. Consider Apple's professional program, Soundtrack, for your professional needs. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 22nd, 2004, 08:21 AM	#1470
Michael Gibbons Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Loveland, Colorado, USA Posts: 292	Yes, Thanks! Micahel __________________ " When some wild-eyed, eight foot tall maniac grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head against a bar room wall, and looks you crooked in the eye, and he asks you if you've payed your dues, well, you just stare that big suker right back in the eye, and you remember what old Jack Burton always says at a time like that, 'Have you paid your dues, Jack? Yes sir, the check is in the mail."