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Old October 23rd, 2004, 08:47 PM   #1471
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911- Media 100 EDL Import Errors - Plz Help!

I'm in a really tight timeline so any help would be greatly appreciated, I can't move ahead until this is resolved! Just wondering if anyone out there has had any experience with this...

I created a timeline in Adobe Premier Pro 1.5 for a project I'm currently working on. The timeline is rough cut, and I'm having an editor friend of mine go through and put some finishing touches on it.

My friend is editing on a MAC using Media 100. As a test, I exported a finished timeline from another project as an EDL, and when he imports it, it works fine.

When he tries to import the timeline for my new project from an EDL that I exported in Premier, it comes back with errors. The error log shows, "Event 4: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)".

We compared the two EDL lists side by side, and they look virtually the same. The only noticable different was that the clip names in the file that doesn't work have underscores in them. We tried removing the underscore, same problem.

If anybody has any input or ideas or experience, it would be greatly appreciated. I'll post some sample clips below...
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Old October 23rd, 2004, 08:48 PM   #1472
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Error Log

Here is a samble from the EDL Import Error Log:

Errors found importing file: me.edl
Event 4: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 8: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 10: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 13: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 15: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 16: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 19: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 24: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)
Event 25: An error in clip timecode was found. (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)

it carries on to Even 220.
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Old October 23rd, 2004, 08:49 PM   #1473
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Non-Working EDL List

Here is a copy of the non-working EDL List... It's trunkated to keep this thread smaller.

TITLE: EDL Export
FCM: DROP FRAME

001 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:03:09 01:00:05:12 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:03
* FROM CLIP NAME: middle earth.prtl
002 BL AA C 00:00:00:00 00:00:29:11 00:00:00:00 00:00:29:11
003 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:05:12 01:00:05:12 00:00:02:03 00:00:02:03
003 Untitled V D 225 00:16:30:06 00:16:38:28 00:00:02:03 00:00:10:24
* FROM CLIP NAME: middle earth.prtl
* TO CLIP NAME: HORS map reading 01.avi
* BLEND, DISSOLVE
004 Middle_E V C 00:00:54:21 00:00:56:19 00:00:10:24 00:00:12:23
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 04.avi
005 Middle_E V C 00:01:03:28 00:01:05:28 00:00:12:23 00:00:14:23
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 05.avi
006 Middle_E V C 00:02:59:21 00:03:02:00 00:00:14:23 00:00:17:00
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 12.avi
007 Middle_E V C 00:03:15:23 00:03:17:29 00:00:17:00 00:00:19:06
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 13.avi
008 Middle_E V C 00:08:18:08 00:08:19:07 00:00:19:06 00:00:20:06
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 63.avi
009 Middle_E V C 00:08:00:12 00:08:01:14 00:00:20:06 00:00:21:08
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 59.avi
010 Middle_E V C 00:06:51:01 00:06:52:03 00:00:21:08 00:00:22:11
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 48.avi
011 Middle_E V C 00:02:18:05 00:02:19:09 00:00:22:11 00:00:23:14
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 07 Beer Pano.avi
012 Middle_E V C 00:06:32:27 00:06:34:03 00:00:23:14 00:00:24:20
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 43.avi
013 Middle_E V C 00:06:25:28 00:06:27:00 00:00:24:20 00:00:25:23
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 42.avi
014 Middle_E V C 00:06:36:16 00:06:37:20 00:00:25:23 00:00:26:27
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 44.avi
015 Middle_E V C 00:03:24:21 00:03:25:29 00:00:26:27 00:00:28:06
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 14.avi
016 Middle_E V C 00:05:15:06 00:05:16:10 00:00:28:06 00:00:29:11
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 30.avi
017 Middle_E AA/V C 00:01:23:24 00:01:26:16 00:00:29:11 00:00:32:03
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 06.avi
018 Middle_E AA/V C 00:01:40:23 00:01:45:23 00:00:32:03 00:00:37:03
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 06.avi
019 Middle_E AA/V C 00:09:21:02 00:09:23:18 00:00:37:03 00:00:39:20
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 71.avi
020 Middle_E V C 00:09:29:29 00:09:32:12 00:00:39:20 00:00:42:03
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 72.avi
021 Middle_E AA C 00:09:29:29 00:09:33:17 00:00:39:20 00:00:43:08
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 72.avi
022 Middle_E V C 00:09:32:12 00:09:32:12 00:00:42:03 00:00:42:03
022 Middle-1 V D 035 00:03:45:21 00:03:54:02 00:00:42:03 00:00:50:13
* FROM CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 72.avi
* TO CLIP NAME: ME VI (40) 15 2.avi
* BLEND, DISSOLVE
023 Middle-1 AA C 00:03:46:26 00:03:54:19 00:00:43:08 00:00:51:00
* FROM CLIP NAME: ME VI (40) 15 2.avi
024 Middle-1 V C 00:03:54:02 00:03:54:02 00:00:50:13 00:00:50:13
024 Middle_E V D 035 00:10:52:28 00:11:10:04 00:00:50:13 00:01:07:20
* FROM CLIP NAME: ME VI (40) 15 2.avi
* TO CLIP NAME: Middle Earth Tape I (37) Clip 1 79 Driving Cows in Road.avi
* BLEND, DISSOLVE
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Old October 23rd, 2004, 08:50 PM   #1474
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Sample EDL File that Works

Here's is a copy of the EDL file that works...

TITLE: Main Sequence
FCM: DROP FRAME

001 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:00:00 01:00:02:02 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:02
* FROM CLIP NAME: trail to trail.prtl
002 BL AA C 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:02 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:02
003 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:02:02 01:00:02:02 00:00:02:02 00:00:02:02
003 Untitled V D 104 00:28:29:14 00:28:36:01 00:00:02:02 00:00:08:19
* FROM CLIP NAME: trail to trail.prtl
* TO CLIP NAME: korkers puesto walking low angle.avi
* BLEND, DISSOLVE
004 Untitled AA C 00:28:29:14 00:28:36:01 00:00:02:02 00:00:08:19
* FROM CLIP NAME: korkers puesto walking low angle.avi
005 BL AA/V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:04:06 00:00:08:19 00:00:12:25
006 Untitled AA/V C 00:49:59:11 00:50:07:10 00:00:12:25 00:00:20:24
* FROM CLIP NAME: korkers middle earth walking skull.avi
007 BL V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:00:18 00:00:20:24 00:00:21:12
008 BL AA C 00:00:00:00 00:00:06:01 00:00:20:24 00:00:26:25
009 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:00:00 01:00:01:22 00:00:21:12 00:00:23:04
* FROM CLIP NAME: minute to minute.prtl
010 BL V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:02:05 00:00:23:04 00:00:25:09
011 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:03:14 01:00:05:00 00:00:25:09 00:00:26:25
* FROM CLIP NAME: step to step.prtl
012 UNKNOWN V C 01:00:05:00 01:00:05:00 00:00:26:25 00:00:26:25
012 Untitled V D 063 00:28:59:20 00:29:02:02 00:00:26:25 00:00:29:05
* FROM CLIP NAME: step to step.prtl
* TO CLIP NAME: korkers footprint shot puesto.avi
* BLEND, DISSOLVE
013 Untitled AA C 00:28:59:20 00:29:02:02 00:00:26:25 00:00:29:05
* FROM CLIP NAME: korkers footprint shot puesto.avi
014 Untitled AA/V C 00:09:52:19 00:10:00:15 00:00:29:05 00:00:37:01
* FROM CLIP NAME: magan nick falling korkers walking.avi
015 BL V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:04:16 00:00:37:01 00:00:41:17
016 Untitled V C 00:30:00:08 00:30:13:10 00:00:41:17 00:00:54:19
M2 Untitled -3000.0 00:30:00:08
* FROM CLIP NAME: timelapse arroyo.avi
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Old October 25th, 2004, 03:24 AM   #1475
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bypassing hardware check when installing FCP 4

anyone know how to do this? Keep's telling me that I don't have the right hardware, but I meet all the requirements. g4, 512mb ram firewire dvd drive agp card etc
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Old October 25th, 2004, 04:12 AM   #1476
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I have no experience whatsoever with any of this, but reading the
error message it looks like the input and record sizes do not
match (sourceOut - sourceIn < recordOut - recordIn)

When I look at event 4 for example I see:

00:00:54:21 00:00:56:19 00:00:10:24 00:00:12:23

Now I assume this is: sourceIn, sourceOut, recordIn, recordOut
at 30 frames per second (doesn't matter really what you choose)

So source is: 00:00:56:19 - 00:00:54:21 = 00:00:01:28
record is: 00:00:12:23 - 00:00:10:24 = 00:00:01:29

See the difference? There is a 1 frame mismatch between the
two. Now how it got there I have no idea. But perhaps this will
get you a bit closer to what is going on.

Perhaps a program called EDLMax can help you.

Calculations:

00:00:56:19 = 1699 frames
00:00:54:21 = 1641 frames
=========================
1699 - 1641 = 58 frames = 00:00:01:28

00:00:12:23 = 383 frames
00:00:10:24 = 324 frames
========================
383 - 324 = 59 frames = 00:00:01:29
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Old October 25th, 2004, 06:32 AM   #1477
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Peak comes from Bias inc not Apple. Apple has a package called Logic. I use Peak DV and find it suitable for a number of things. They have decent tech support. Contact them at www.bias-inc.com.
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Old October 25th, 2004, 10:34 AM   #1478
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Need some help with some CGI possibly

I would like to know what programs I'd need if any to do what seems to be a very simple effect for a scene. I have FCP HD and I'm not sure that if that is all we'd need...or if we'd need motion.


What we are trying to do is this:

our subject walks through a room into the bathroom. As she passes through the room (wide angle) there is a transformation of the room right behind her. Almost like a rippling wave following her and as it moves it changes the room.

I hope I described that well enough for you to get an idea of what I'm talking about. Its one shot, and the effect will be done throughout the entire movie.

We are thinking of shooting the scene once with the regular room, then changing the room and shooting it again and then overlapping the footage and adding some sort of effect to it that makes that possible. is my thinking correct about that?


sorry if the post didn't make sense. I'm going back and forth here from work to this. But I read it over and it makes sense to me.


thanks for all the help guys.
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Old October 25th, 2004, 11:40 AM   #1479
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Have you tried running fsck -f and repaired your permissions? that might help. What version of FCP & OS-10?
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Old October 25th, 2004, 03:42 PM   #1480
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Thanks Rob, I'll try the EDL program and see what I can come up with, wonder why it's off by a frame?
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Old October 25th, 2004, 08:59 PM   #1481
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QT Pro Key for v.6.0.1

I have QT 6.0.1 and now would like to purchase the Pro Key. However, I don't want to upgrade the current version of my QT Player because I don't want to mess up with iMovie (2.1.2), which i still use very often. I use my computer, almost exclusively, for video editing and so upgrades are not important to me. That said, will the current Pro Key offered by Apple work with the (relatively) outdated version of my QT?

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its OSX 10.3 and FCP 4, tried that, still says i don't have the right hardware...
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Call Apple support, something isn't right. It could be something with the ram. I know FCP does a ram check, but I thought that was only after the install. It would make sense to check ram prior to install as well. Do you have the Apple Ram Test CD? If so, run it over night if possible, but at the minimum for several hours and see if any errors are found.
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I don't think the QT key will work with the older version. You should look into upgrading iMovie for greater compatibility with current offerings from Apple.
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Jeff, thank you for replying.

I think I wasn't clear enough... QT Player 6.0.1 is the version that I have on my computer now. According to Apple's site it is recommended that one upgrade to the latest version of QT Player, which is 6.5, before purchasing the Pro Key. So, my question is this... If I don't upgrade, will the Pro Key currently offered by Apple work with my QT Player 6.0.1?
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