Disabling 'SUBCLIPS' When Capturing HDV at DVinfo.net

Austin Walton · May 10th, 2006, 04:29 PM

I recently shot a 40 min. shot (think Touch of Evil) and I don't want it broken in to subclips; I want one uninterrupted shot. OK, I lied, it's a wedding ceremony; I shot on HDV. Does anyone know how I would go about this? Subclips have always been fine w/me (makes things much easier), but not in this case. Thanks.

-Austin

Austin Walton · May 10th, 2006, 09:42 PM

: ) gOT IT

Justin McAleece · May 12th, 2006, 11:09 AM

i've had this same problem and i think i stumbled upon a solution once but can't remember it. please inform the rest of us.

Steve Nunez · May 21st, 2006, 06:27 AM

Austin- what was the solution?

Austin Walton · May 21st, 2006, 08:03 AM

Sorry for not responding sooner; once I 'figured it out' I never came back. Since I didn't stop rolling during my take/shot the clip was captured in whole (30mins. +), and did not create any subclips. This worked on two different cameras (one stationary and one moving).

So, I never really figured out how to disable subclips, other than long/uninterrupted shots like Mr. Sokurov. Not very profound, or helpful. Sorry.

-Austin

Nathan Troutman · May 22nd, 2006, 09:20 PM

Let me preface this with this: I didn't have time to test this so I'm going from memory here. Now, I think I got around subclibs by working things like this. First here's the wrong way if you don't want subclips. If you select in and out points and put in your logging information and then click "now" under the capture box you will start the capture and the FCP will break your import into subclips. If, however, you select in and out points and log your information and then click "log clip" FCP will create an offline clip in your browser. Then control click that clip and select "batch capture". FCP will then capture your clip whole. At least I think so from what I remember. If someone could tests this and remind me that would be helpful. I can't capture right now to test my memory.

David Mills · May 27th, 2006, 09:56 AM

I am having the totally opposite problem at the moment. I can't seem, to enable subclips!!
My workflow
1. capture from canon xlh1 - 25f - hdv 1080i50;
2.select clip and drag to timeline;
3. In point at beginnig of clip. Out point at end of clip.
4. select make sub clip;( modify- make subclip)

I get a new sequence names 'clip' subclip. And I can't get any subclips. This happens for all of my footage. DV/ DCVPROHD and HDV.

I am sure I could do this no problem on 5.04 FCP . I have upgraded to 5.1.1 FCP. Apple want US 200 dollars just to talk about this.

I have captured 28 hours successfully on my feature in dvcprohd and made sub clips. Now I can't.

Anyone out there know the answer... This has gotten beyond frustrating. Many thanks..

Matt Trubac · May 28th, 2006, 07:35 AM

i thought there was a check box under one of the tabs of the HDV log and capture window that enabled/disabled FCP splitting your clips based on camera start/stop points. There is no "DV Start/Stop detect" (hence the DV in the name) when working with HDV so this seems to be an alternative solution.

David Mills · May 28th, 2006, 04:35 PM

Thanks for your suggestion Mat. I tried that but for some reason hdv piped down the canon xlh1 does not behave the same as the sony in this regard. I have used the Z1 and had the clips separate on capture. But with the canon xlh1 it won't do that.

The Dv capture start stop option is supposed to work with DVCPROHD ( according to the manual) but I can't get that to work either.

May 10th, 2006, 04:29 PM	#1
Austin Walton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: TX Posts: 66	Disabling 'SUBCLIPS' When Capturing HDV I recently shot a 40 min. shot (think Touch of Evil) and I don't want it broken in to subclips; I want one uninterrupted shot. OK, I lied, it's a wedding ceremony; I shot on HDV. Does anyone know how I would go about this? Subclips have always been fine w/me (makes things much easier), but not in this case. Thanks. -Austin

May 10th, 2006, 09:42 PM	#2
Austin Walton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: TX Posts: 66	Nevermind : ) gOT IT

May 12th, 2006, 11:09 AM	#3
Justin McAleece Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fresno CA Posts: 32	if you figured it out please share. i've had this same problem and i think i stumbled upon a solution once but can't remember it. please inform the rest of us.

May 21st, 2006, 06:27 AM	#4
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Austin- what was the solution? __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

May 21st, 2006, 08:03 AM	#5
Austin Walton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: TX Posts: 66	I have found the Ark. Not that one. The Russian Ark. Sorry for not responding sooner; once I 'figured it out' I never came back. Since I didn't stop rolling during my take/shot the clip was captured in whole (30mins. +), and did not create any subclips. This worked on two different cameras (one stationary and one moving). So, I never really figured out how to disable subclips, other than long/uninterrupted shots like Mr. Sokurov. Not very profound, or helpful. Sorry. -Austin

May 22nd, 2006, 09:20 PM	#6
Nathan Troutman Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hoboken, NJ (New York metro area) Posts: 105	Let me preface this with this: I didn't have time to test this so I'm going from memory here. Now, I think I got around subclibs by working things like this. First here's the wrong way if you don't want subclips. If you select in and out points and put in your logging information and then click "now" under the capture box you will start the capture and the FCP will break your import into subclips. If, however, you select in and out points and log your information and then click "log clip" FCP will create an offline clip in your browser. Then control click that clip and select "batch capture". FCP will then capture your clip whole. At least I think so from what I remember. If someone could tests this and remind me that would be helpful. I can't capture right now to test my memory.

May 27th, 2006, 09:56 AM	#7
David Mills New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Stockton on Tees,UK Posts: 21	Disabling 'SUBCLIPS' When Capturing HDV I am having the totally opposite problem at the moment. I can't seem, to enable subclips!! My workflow 1. capture from canon xlh1 - 25f - hdv 1080i50; 2.select clip and drag to timeline; 3. In point at beginnig of clip. Out point at end of clip. 4. select make sub clip;( modify- make subclip) I get a new sequence names 'clip' subclip. And I can't get any subclips. This happens for all of my footage. DV/ DCVPROHD and HDV. I am sure I could do this no problem on 5.04 FCP . I have upgraded to 5.1.1 FCP. Apple want US 200 dollars just to talk about this. I have captured 28 hours successfully on my feature in dvcprohd and made sub clips. Now I can't. Anyone out there know the answer... This has gotten beyond frustrating. Many thanks..

May 28th, 2006, 07:35 AM	#8
Matt Trubac Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 286	i thought there was a check box under one of the tabs of the HDV log and capture window that enabled/disabled FCP splitting your clips based on camera start/stop points. There is no "DV Start/Stop detect" (hence the DV in the name) when working with HDV so this seems to be an alternative solution. __________________ Matt Trubac

May 28th, 2006, 04:35 PM	#9
David Mills New Boot Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Stockton on Tees,UK Posts: 21	Disabling ' SUBCLIPS' When capturing HDV Thanks for your suggestion Mat. I tried that but for some reason hdv piped down the canon xlh1 does not behave the same as the sony in this regard. I have used the Z1 and had the clips separate on capture. But with the canon xlh1 it won't do that. The Dv capture start stop option is supposed to work with DVCPROHD ( according to the manual) but I can't get that to work either.