Is the "drop out" problem in FCP solved? at DVinfo.net

Chad Terpstra · February 15th, 2007, 02:07 PM

I haven't heard anything new on the FCP capture problem of random drop-outs that leave out 4-10 seconds at random spots of a perfectly good tape. Speculation was made about using REC vs. REGEN on the TC Generator, but neither has impacted my capture ability. –24p or 30p

Has this been solved yet? Thanks.

Tim Dashwood · February 15th, 2007, 09:28 PM

FCP hasn't been updated since September...so no change.

I've never had problems with the ProHD tape. The other day I captured a 15 minute long 720p24 clip without any issues.

David Parks · February 15th, 2007, 09:45 PM

I'm not currently an FCP user, but I ran into this over at HD for Indies.

http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...cutpro513.html

Apple claims to have fixed some bugs.

Thought you guys might be interested.

Cheers, David

Tim Dashwood · February 15th, 2007, 09:50 PM

David,

I stand corrected. It looks like version 5.1.3 must have been released about 12 hours ago.

I just read the release notes and there is no specific mention of fixes for ProHD capture. We'll have to test it.

Joshua Frye · February 15th, 2007, 10:45 PM

I've had a lot of problems with my ProHD 24P stuff in FCP 5.1.2....

Don't know why. I've gone back to using DVHScap. Oh the fun.....

Chad Terpstra · February 15th, 2007, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Dashwood

It looks like version 5.1.3 must have been released about 12 hours ago.

Hmm. Looks like I had impeccable timing with this thread. Didn't know about that. Do test away though as I’m running low on time for it. Let us know what you find.

Carlos San Roman · February 16th, 2007, 02:13 AM

The last time there was a FCP update there was a firmware update needed for the BR-HD50. Does anyone know if there will be a firmware update needed this time around?

Carlos

Burt Holland · February 16th, 2007, 11:49 AM

Just tried 5.1.3 upgrade. No fix for the dropped frames issue. Doh!

Burt Holland
www.encyclomedia.net

Andy Graham · February 16th, 2007, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt Holland

Just tried 5.1.3 upgrade. No fix for the dropped frames issue. Doh!

Burt Holland
www.encyclomedia.net

I tried it earlier and captured an 11 min clip uninterrupted which i could'nt do before (using a cheap jvc tape), it only made a new clip when i stopped/started rec and that i can handle. Maybe it was just luck i don't know, i'll need to test more.

Andy.

Chad Terpstra · February 16th, 2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burt Holland

Just tried 5.1.3 upgrade. No fix for the dropped frames issue. Doh!

Bummer. I guess I'll have to keep using DVHSCap. Apple, why do you have to be so slow to support this camera fully?

Gary Williams · February 16th, 2007, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Terpstra

Bummer. I guess I'll have to keep using DVHSCap. Apple, why do you have to be so slow to support this camera fully?

I agree but I am expecting the changes to take place at the NAB in April we will see, maybe final cut pro 6 or what ever. I would be shocked if there are no changes to final cut pro.

Chad Terpstra · February 17th, 2007, 01:15 AM

I am looking forward to FCP 6 actually. I've submitted a number of enhancement requests and am curious to see how many might be implemented. I can think of at least half a dozen things to improve the program. But I suppose that's for another thread. Hopefully they fix this JVC issue then.

Sean Adair · February 18th, 2007, 11:42 AM

http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/...devicelist.php

No JVC HDV devices on the official apple list of "products that meet Apple's performance and reliability standards for professional use". Sony, Panasonic and Canon cameras are all represented here.

Interesting... actually - disturbing. I just got my HD-200 delivered 2 days ago, and I'm a confirmed macaholic. This does not bode well for continued effort to solve problems. I assume that JVC WAS on this list before from general publicity and codec development.

Anyone with more knowledge about this?

Edwin Huang · February 20th, 2007, 10:58 AM

My workaround is to use iMovie to capture. Downside is that all the footage captured is in Apple Intermediate Codec. But it is bizarre that Apple's amateur editing tool can both capture and convert to another codec in realtime while it's pro offering can't simply capture.

Chad Terpstra · February 20th, 2007, 11:11 AM

Edwin, can it capture 24p if AIC? Last I checked FCP can capture 30p in AIC, but not 24.

February 15th, 2007, 02:07 PM	#1
Chad Terpstra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 320	Is the "drop out" problem in FCP solved? I haven't heard anything new on the FCP capture problem of random drop-outs that leave out 4-10 seconds at random spots of a perfectly good tape. Speculation was made about using REC vs. REGEN on the TC Generator, but neither has impacted my capture ability. –24p or 30p Has this been solved yet? Thanks.

February 15th, 2007, 09:28 PM	#2
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	FCP hasn't been updated since September...so no change. I've never had problems with the ProHD tape. The other day I captured a 15 minute long 720p24 clip without any issues. __________________ Tim Dashwood

February 15th, 2007, 09:45 PM	#3
David Parks Major Player Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 789	Fcp 5.1.3 I'm not currently an FCP user, but I ran into this over at HD for Indies. http://www.apple.com/support/downloa...cutpro513.html Apple claims to have fixed some bugs. Thought you guys might be interested. Cheers, David __________________ David Parks: DP/Editor: Jacobs Aerospace at NASA Johnson Space Center https://www.youtube.com/user/JacobsESCG

February 15th, 2007, 09:50 PM	#4
Tim Dashwood Wrangler Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Posts: 3,637	David, I stand corrected. It looks like version 5.1.3 must have been released about 12 hours ago. I just read the release notes and there is no specific mention of fixes for ProHD capture. We'll have to test it. __________________ Tim Dashwood

February 18th, 2007, 11:42 AM	#13
Sean Adair Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 463	Qualified Devices for Apple Pro Applications http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/...devicelist.php No JVC HDV devices on the official apple list of "products that meet Apple's performance and reliability standards for professional use". Sony, Panasonic and Canon cameras are all represented here. Interesting... actually - disturbing. I just got my HD-200 delivered 2 days ago, and I'm a confirmed macaholic. This does not bode well for continued effort to solve problems. I assume that JVC WAS on this list before from general publicity and codec development. Anyone with more knowledge about this? __________________ Sean Adair - NYC - www.adairproductions.com JVC GY-HM-700 with 17x5 lens, MacPro 3.2ghz 8-core, 18gb. (JVC HD200 4 sale soon)

February 15th, 2007, 10:45 PM	#5
Joshua Frye New Boot Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Johnson City Tenn. Posts: 15	I've had a lot of problems with my ProHD 24P stuff in FCP 5.1.2.... Don't know why. I've gone back to using DVHScap. Oh the fun.....

February 16th, 2007, 02:13 AM	#7
Carlos San Roman Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 46	The last time there was a FCP update there was a firmware update needed for the BR-HD50. Does anyone know if there will be a firmware update needed this time around? Carlos

February 16th, 2007, 11:49 AM	#8
Burt Holland Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 26	Just tried 5.1.3 upgrade. No fix for the dropped frames issue. Doh! Burt Holland www.encyclomedia.net

February 17th, 2007, 01:15 AM	#12
Chad Terpstra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 320	I am looking forward to FCP 6 actually. I've submitted a number of enhancement requests and am curious to see how many might be implemented. I can think of at least half a dozen things to improve the program. But I suppose that's for another thread. Hopefully they fix this JVC issue then.

February 20th, 2007, 10:58 AM	#14
Edwin Huang Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 43	My workaround is to use iMovie to capture. Downside is that all the footage captured is in Apple Intermediate Codec. But it is bizarre that Apple's amateur editing tool can both capture and convert to another codec in realtime while it's pro offering can't simply capture.

February 20th, 2007, 11:11 AM	#15
Chad Terpstra Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 320	Edwin, can it capture 24p if AIC? Last I checked FCP can capture 30p in AIC, but not 24.