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James Emory · August 8th, 2002, 03:41 PM

Whew!! You ain't kiddin! I totally misunderstood. You definitely have the pipe!

Paul Sedillo · August 8th, 2002, 04:18 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by backlash : The site gets about 50K to 80K uniqe visitors a month. We are trying to give them something new to look at and watch. The show would highlight some monthly story or event. You can check out the site at http://www.wildhobbies.com.

Best,
Big James -->>>

I would imagine that your visitors are interested in performance tuning. You could create monthly topics that cover different aspects of making the cars go faster.

As you mentioned, there could be an events related topic covered each month.

And of course the ever popular what's hot (product wise). You might even be able to sell small comercials to help off set the cost of the video production and distribution.

Another thought is to create a poll on the front page and ask people what they want.

Just some thoughts that come to mind after looking at your site.

James Rulison · August 8th, 2002, 10:44 PM

Well I actually thought about the commercial spots thats why I broke it into 4 segments. As for the car tuning that's an idea I also thought about covering hot spots to drive.

If I were to sell commercials how long should they be. Plus to avoid buffering should I try to get them down to just a little graphic and some audio.

Have you tried converting a powerpoint to Windows Media before files done like that come out real small.

Best,
Big James

Paul Sedillo · August 9th, 2002, 05:43 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by backlash :
If I were to sell commercials how long should they be. Plus to avoid buffering should I try to get them down to just a little graphic and some audio.

-->>>

My suggestion is to just use a graphic insert with a voice over. Maybe add a music track to back the voice over. The length of the commercial could run from 15 seconds up to a 60 second spot. You could set your pricing based on time viewed i.e. a 15 second spot would run $500.00 (etc.). I would expect that your advertisers would like to know number of views per segment produced.

James Rulison · August 9th, 2002, 09:43 AM

15 Second spots? Have you ever checked out the Windows Media Page and looked at movie trailers some of the companies that host the movie trailers do advertisments at the begining these spots run only 5 seconds.

Even at 5 seconds I find myself trying to skip them. I think I might be able to pull off 15 second spots. Graphic with voiceover I wonder how compressed I could get that and the quality.

Best,
Big James

Dan Holly · September 4th, 2002, 10:51 AM

Big James,
There is some data to be found on the attention span of teenagers and adults (don't remember where, but try google) on the internet.

I think the highest group wasn't much over 15 seconds (TV) when I checked this out a few years back.

My 17 almost 18 year old son and all of his friends are really into the import street/track racing "fad", and they will surf this stuff for hours on end.

Without any data to back me up (other than watching my son and his friends) I would guess that <1 min would be a good medium. Of course I'm spoiled with 1.5 meg cable as a side note.

Hope this helps.

Dan

James Rulison · November 13th, 2002, 04:35 PM

Thanks everyone for your help. We are running a few tests now with some friends will let you know how it goes.

Best,
Big James

August 8th, 2002, 03:41 PM	#16
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Pipeline Whew!! You ain't kiddin! I totally misunderstood. You definitely have the pipe!

August 8th, 2002, 04:18 PM	#17
Paul Sedillo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 607	<<<-- Originally posted by backlash : The site gets about 50K to 80K uniqe visitors a month. We are trying to give them something new to look at and watch. The show would highlight some monthly story or event. You can check out the site at http://www.wildhobbies.com. Best, Big James -->>> I would imagine that your visitors are interested in performance tuning. You could create monthly topics that cover different aspects of making the cars go faster. As you mentioned, there could be an events related topic covered each month. And of course the ever popular what's hot (product wise). You might even be able to sell small comercials to help off set the cost of the video production and distribution. Another thought is to create a poll on the front page and ask people what they want. Just some thoughts that come to mind after looking at your site. __________________ Paul Sedillo Image::Studio http://www.image-studio.com Houston, Texas

August 9th, 2002, 05:43 AM	#19
Paul Sedillo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 607	<<<-- Originally posted by backlash : If I were to sell commercials how long should they be. Plus to avoid buffering should I try to get them down to just a little graphic and some audio. -->>> My suggestion is to just use a graphic insert with a voice over. Maybe add a music track to back the voice over. The length of the commercial could run from 15 seconds up to a 60 second spot. You could set your pricing based on time viewed i.e. a 15 second spot would run $500.00 (etc.). I would expect that your advertisers would like to know number of views per segment produced. __________________ Paul Sedillo Image::Studio http://www.image-studio.com Houston, Texas

September 4th, 2002, 10:51 AM	#21
Dan Holly Major Player Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 336	Attention span Big James, There is some data to be found on the attention span of teenagers and adults (don't remember where, but try google) on the internet. I think the highest group wasn't much over 15 seconds (TV) when I checked this out a few years back. My 17 almost 18 year old son and all of his friends are really into the import street/track racing "fad", and they will surf this stuff for hours on end. Without any data to back me up (other than watching my son and his friends) I would guess that <1 min would be a good medium. Of course I'm spoiled with 1.5 meg cable as a side note. Hope this helps. Dan __________________ Dan Holly Anchorage, Alaska

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August 8th, 2002, 10:44 PM	#18
James Rulison Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 59	Well I actually thought about the commercial spots thats why I broke it into 4 segments. As for the car tuning that's an idea I also thought about covering hot spots to drive. If I were to sell commercials how long should they be. Plus to avoid buffering should I try to get them down to just a little graphic and some audio. Have you tried converting a powerpoint to Windows Media before files done like that come out real small. Best, Big James

August 9th, 2002, 09:43 AM	#20
James Rulison Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 59	15 Second spots? Have you ever checked out the Windows Media Page and looked at movie trailers some of the companies that host the movie trailers do advertisments at the begining these spots run only 5 seconds. Even at 5 seconds I find myself trying to skip them. I think I might be able to pull off 15 second spots. Graphic with voiceover I wonder how compressed I could get that and the quality. Best, Big James

November 13th, 2002, 04:35 PM	#22
James Rulison Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 59	Thanks everyone for your help. We are running a few tests now with some friends will let you know how it goes. Best, Big James