3ccd HD camcorder? at DVinfo.net

John Cash · February 15th, 2012, 03:33 PM

I have a helicopter shoot and the client is demanding an HD 3ccd camera. No DSLR they say.

Is there any HD 3ccd cameras sold these days?

Ones I know

Canon XHa1
Sony FX1,FX7,and Z1u
Pany HVX100,200

What about consumer camcorders? Smaller would be better. Heli can lift 5lbs no problem but Im looking for a consumer model

Thanks

Craig W. Scribner · February 15th, 2012, 05:35 PM

You might consider the Panasonic HDC-TM900. It has 3 CMOS (not CCD) sensors and is .87 pounds without a battery. Reviews have been excellent and you can get one at B & H Photo for $719.99.

Matt Sharp · February 15th, 2012, 07:16 PM

Also the JVC HM150U.

Chris Medico · February 15th, 2012, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Cash

I have a helicopter shoot and the client is demanding an HD 3ccd camera. No DSLR they say.

Do you realize that as soon as you say the word "client" you are opening yourself up to administrative action by the FAA?

Commercial flying of a camera with a UAV is currently illegal in the USA.

Jim Michael · February 15th, 2012, 09:52 PM

No one is going to pay attention until they pick someone to make an example of. Same applies to gluing GoPros to the exterior of GA aircraft.

Chris Medico · February 15th, 2012, 10:05 PM

Ah yes but they have. Its just not been highly publicized. Yet. Its coming.

The short answer is - do not offer such services for hire within the USA.

If you choose to do it you will only be recording the evidence needed to earn yourself an administrative action (fine). The rules of guilt aren't the same under administrative law. You are NOT innocent until proven guilty under administrative law.

Anyone thinking about shooting video or photos from a UAV for hire should read this page - mi6films.com aerial cinematography rc helicopters video 1080p Canon 7d

And this one - Fact Sheet – Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS)

John Cash · February 16th, 2012, 01:57 PM

Thanks for the suggestions.

Chris- shooting from an RC heli is not illegal. There is an FAA directive aginst it, but thats not illegal. Laws are enfoceable. A directive is used to bully.

besides, who said USA?

Jim Michael · February 16th, 2012, 02:12 PM

Just an FYI who might be so inclined, there are FAA regulations that can be used against you, even when they don't have a specific anti-rc flying regulation. E.g. Sec. 91.13 — Careless or reckless operation.

(a) Aircraft operations for the purpose of air navigation. No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another.

I don't think what you are doing falls under part 91, but I think you catch my drift.

Have fun in Mexico :-)

Adam Gold · February 17th, 2012, 12:46 AM

Getting back on topic, we should note that the FX7 is not CCD -- it and its cousin the V1 are CMOS.

Kevin McRoberts · February 22nd, 2012, 08:09 AM

Prosumer:
Z1U/FX1
HVX200/200a
HPX170
HMC150
XHA1

Consumer:
JVC Everio GZ-HD3
Panasonic HDC-SD5

Lee Mullen · February 26th, 2012, 11:53 PM

JVC HM100 are going for good prices now and are a great camera.

February 15th, 2012, 03:33 PM	#1
John Cash Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 253	3ccd HD camcorder? I have a helicopter shoot and the client is demanding an HD 3ccd camera. No DSLR they say. Is there any HD 3ccd cameras sold these days? Ones I know Canon XHa1 Sony FX1,FX7,and Z1u Pany HVX100,200 What about consumer camcorders? Smaller would be better. Heli can lift 5lbs no problem but Im looking for a consumer model Thanks

February 15th, 2012, 05:35 PM	#2
Craig W. Scribner New Boot Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wichita, KS USA Posts: 8	Re: 3ccd HD camcorder? You might consider the Panasonic HDC-TM900. It has 3 CMOS (not CCD) sensors and is .87 pounds without a battery. Reviews have been excellent and you can get one at B & H Photo for $719.99.

February 15th, 2012, 07:16 PM	#3
Matt Sharp Major Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Northridge, CA Posts: 280	Re: 3ccd HD camcorder? Also the JVC HM150U.

February 15th, 2012, 09:52 PM	#5
Jim Michael Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 895	Re: 3ccd HD camcorder? No one is going to pay attention until they pick someone to make an example of. Same applies to gluing GoPros to the exterior of GA aircraft.

February 15th, 2012, 10:05 PM	#6
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: 3ccd HD camcorder? Ah yes but they have. Its just not been highly publicized. Yet. Its coming. The short answer is - do not offer such services for hire within the USA. If you choose to do it you will only be recording the evidence needed to earn yourself an administrative action (fine). The rules of guilt aren't the same under administrative law. You are NOT innocent until proven guilty under administrative law. Anyone thinking about shooting video or photos from a UAV for hire should read this page - mi6films.com aerial cinematography rc helicopters video 1080p Canon 7d And this one - Fact Sheet – Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

February 16th, 2012, 01:57 PM	#7
John Cash Major Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 253	Re: 3ccd HD camcorder? Thanks for the suggestions. Chris- shooting from an RC heli is not illegal. There is an FAA directive aginst it, but thats not illegal. Laws are enfoceable. A directive is used to bully. besides, who said USA?

February 16th, 2012, 02:12 PM	#8
Jim Michael Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 895	Re: 3ccd HD camcorder? Just an FYI who might be so inclined, there are FAA regulations that can be used against you, even when they don't have a specific anti-rc flying regulation. E.g. Sec. 91.13 — Careless or reckless operation. (a) Aircraft operations for the purpose of air navigation. No person may operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another. I don't think what you are doing falls under part 91, but I think you catch my drift. Have fun in Mexico :-)

February 17th, 2012, 12:46 AM	#9
Adam Gold Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Woodinville, WA USA Posts: 3,467	Re: 3ccd HD camcorder? Getting back on topic, we should note that the FX7 is not CCD -- it and its cousin the V1 are CMOS. __________________ "It can only be attributable to human error... This sort of thing has cropped up before, and it has always been due to human error."

February 22nd, 2012, 08:09 AM	#10
Kevin McRoberts Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Charlottesville, VA Posts: 700	Re: 3ccd HD camcorder? Prosumer: Z1U/FX1 HVX200/200a HPX170 HMC150 XHA1 Consumer: JVC Everio GZ-HD3 Panasonic HDC-SD5 __________________ Freelance pudgy bearded lighting camera operator www.mcbob.tv

February 26th, 2012, 11:53 PM	#11
Lee Mullen Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Western Australia Posts: 576	Re: 3ccd HD camcorder? JVC HM100 are going for good prices now and are a great camera.