Drone striking Southwest Airlines 737 -- how it was faked
 

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Looks fake to me

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it is fake

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A special effects guy showing his "chops"... you can't always believe what you see!

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Had me fooled. But I could totally see this or similar happen for real in the future. But hope not.

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A drone wouldn't do anywhere near that amount of damage. Planes are going about 200mph on landing, what do drones max at, 25mph. Let alone mass, strength of build & momentum.


Yeah, its possible some idiot might try flying nearby an airport. I think you're not allowed to within 5 miles, a friend told me his drone (DJI?) won't even take off if its in a no fly zone, just give an error message. I'm surprised tho no drones have crashed on highways and caused accidents. You really do realize how dangerous they can be.

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How the video was built -
Regarding realism - with the jet traveling a minimum of 100+ mph, we wouldn't actually see the drone enter the picture over several frames, would just be a streak and gone.

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How dangerous they can be? And yet you're surprised that no drones have crashed on highways and caused accidents?

First, depends on what kind of a drone you're talking about. A Mavic falling into a highway probably wouldn't cause much damage. Most of that would be from someone overreacting to having something hit them and driving into other cars. A Phantom a little bit more so, but not that much. Those are the two most popular sizes of drones. An Inspire and an Octocopter can definitely do damage, but you rarely see those, and the price usually keeps them out of reach from the knuckleheads.

As someone who does a lot of driving, a drone over the highway is not even something I'm looking out for.

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Thread title changed...

was: Can clearly see drone hit plane.

now: Drone striking Southwest Airlines 737 -- how it was faked

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Thanks, Chris. I should have done a bit of research before I posted my fake news. But you must admit. To the untrained eye, it was well done.

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There's also an element of confirmation bias. You believe drones are dangerous, therefore video showing a drone taking off the tip of a wing rings true to you. It looks good, yes, but no, a Phantom drone will not cause that kind of damage. The drone would be shattered, and probably scrape up the paint on the plane.

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I guess I was referring to driving down the road/highway & all is fine at 50mph, then suddenly this plastic thing lands right in front of you. Completely surprised & caught off guard, you swerve to avoid. Sure, its not very likely to happen, and drones don't crash often, but it only takes once.

I'm aware a small 10 lb drone wouldn't typically do much damage to an automobile, but I was more referring to drivers swerving (rightfully so) to avoid whatever it is that landed on them. Think of traffic on I-95 or something.

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"a small 10 lb drone wouldn't typically do much damage to an automobile"

"A Mavic falling into a highway probably wouldn't cause much damage"

Surprised at the comments inferring that a drone strike to a car wouldn't do much damage. I recently caught a rock to the windshield and it almost broke all the way through. A drone weighing several pounds with a NiCad battery brick at 70+ MPH? No thank you sir.

Regards,

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You apparently don't have any experience with these devices if you think a Mavic or even a Phantom weighs "several pounds".

Plus, most of the time you notice a rock is when it hits your windshield. Given the nature of a drone, hitting your windshield is odds I'd be willing to play. A rock kicked up from the ground by a truck or other vehicle is far more concerning.

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Planes are designed to take bird strikes and they are much denser than drone. I don't think a drone could do any significant damage.

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Rock vs. Drone .... winner is always Rock

I'm definitely more worried about the rock hitting my windshield!

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A drone going into a jet engine might cause enough damage to endanger the flight. Something as dense as the battery could break off a part of a fan blade, which then rattles through the successive stages of the fan and compressor, breaking off more pieces of blades, so you get a growing path of damage. It would have to be a lucky hit, given the size of those engines and what they're designed to withstand.

I've seen what a flock of birds can do to a smaller jet engine in a fighter jet. Down in Australia, a jet was taking off or landing, don't remember which now, but it hit about 8 large black birds, like crows. Engine was severely damaged as were parts of the airframe. Pics show the engine blades torn, bent and twisted and pieces broken off. The wing pylon was crushed in, popping several rivets. All from just some birds.
Of course, it being Australia, naturally those were some badass birds, wearing spiked collars and sporting tattoos.

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Talk about a rock hitting a windshield ...
That is for sure. I just recently experienced this. Going past a highway construction project, probably doing all of maybe 20 mph or so, a dump truck that had just left the construction site was traveling the opposite direction and a small rock, maybe 3/4 of an inch (~ 2 cm to some others) hit the windshield just about eye height sending chards of glass toward me. Had I not been wearing sunglasses it could have been much worse.

Having flown into a GA airport near a bird refuge I can tell you that even at slow approach speeds bird strikes cause damage. I was always leery of the approach and the takeoff until I left the area.

There have been incidents of birds flying through the windshield and into the cockpit - and we're talking more than just feathers (blood and guts). This can cause major disruption to the person trying to fly the plane, not to mention all the wind, especially if it is a single engine plane with the prop up front!

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Not to mention what can go wrong with a lithium-ion battery. They don't even let those into your checked baggage due to their possible explosive nature. I definitely don't think you want a potentially explosive object passing through a jet engine at 200mph.

Come to think of it, I don't really want a potentially explosive object falling onto the highway in front of me, or worse, onto my windshield, at terminal velocity either.

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It sounds like you believe lithium ion batteries actually “explode” like in the kinds of explosions you see in movies and on TV. That’s not exactly what they do when ruptured. They emit fumes and can cause fires, they don’t actually “explode” unless you are overcharging it, which means taking the battery out of its housing and connecting a power source directly to it.

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Whatever they do. I don't want one coming through the windscreen or a plane engine I'm in.

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The odds that will happen to you are astronomical.

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I'm a film-maker.

If I didn't believe everything in our world explodes on impact then I wouldn't be able to do my job.

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Probably more chance of being hit on the head by lightning.

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You're actually more likely to be murdered than you have of your airplane getting hit by a drone.

What Really Happens When a Drone Strikes an Airplane
 

>>Drones are made of materials much denser and stiffer than soft tissues and muscles of geese and other airborne animals. Simulations show that when a bird goes into an engine, it's essentially liquidized by spinning blades, like a macabre episode of "Will It Blend." Not so with a drone.<<

What Really Happens When a Drone Strikes an Airplane

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Of course, it’s helpful to know that the drone in question from that study is 8lbs and a design that is being conceived to deliver packages, not the typical Mavics and Phantoms (2-3lbs). According to the article that the simulation video is sourced from:

http://www.techenstein.com/what-happ...-surprise-you/

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I saw below video recently, if a drone would be harmless to a plane I don't take they would take such measures to avoid it :)

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That drone sighting was unconfirmed. I recall a similar incident where a supposed drone strike on an airplane at Heathrow turned out to be anything but, possibly even just a plastic bag.

So, yes, if you call in that you think you saw a drone near an airport, you can wreak all kinds of havoc, even though for DJI drones, those are no-fly areas with their software.

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This is a solution in search of a problem.

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Posted in local news paper.
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/new...es-than-birds/

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Just repeating, damage may depend on if they enter the engine. There are hard parts in a drone, which, if not bringing down the plane, can cause expensive damage to fan blades etc.

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You don;t need to hit an aircraft to cause damage, as can be seen by the effect of drone(s) entering the airspace of an airport in holiday season :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754

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"Damage" in this case used rather loosely.

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It depends on how you define "damage", it's certainly not going to be cheap in financial terms or "damages" as referred to in legal terms..

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Gary - damage is probably used loosely. "damage" should have been in all upper case, as in DAMAGE!

According to one dictionary definition:
The Damage | Definition of The Damage by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/the%20damage
Definition of the damage. informal. : the amount of money that something costs "What's the damage?" he asked, pulling out his wallet.

From the BBC:
110,000 passengers due to arrive or depart on Thursday
760 flights due to arrive or depart on Thursday
10,000 passengers affected on Wednesday
2.9 million (make that MILLION) total passengers due to pass through over Christmas New Year

How can one put a dollar (or Pound) value on that?
Just about everyone is flying for some purpose: wedding, attend a funeral, business trip, one of their only vacations in the year, etc. Then there is the cost of lodging reservations, vacation bookings, business deals (perhaps some critical), etc. What about someone flying because they have to take an exam?

Taxi cabs charging £600 for stranded passengers that have to get somewhere ...
Then there is the added cost for businesses like credit card companies, hotels, etc that have to deal with adjustments...

So, while 'damage' (physical) wasn't done, there was an enormous amount of financial damage. Much more than anyone of us could put a monetary value on, and all due to a drone.

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I can definitely put a dollar/pound value on that, given the fake video that started this thread. It's far more preferable to have this situation than a plane being brought down by a drone by causing literal damage to its chassis or engine. This is annoyance and delays, not potential death and disaster.

How about that?