Canon XH A1 and Firestore

Jay Fisk · January 4th, 2007, 01:08 AM

The 2.1 upgrade for the FS-C (which is in beta now), will add the ability to record 1080i/24F/25F/30F as QuickTime HDV files which can be used instantly in FCP.

Looking for beta testers?

Jourdan McClure · January 4th, 2007, 09:50 PM

I too feel as if I have been mislead. since this device was supposed to be an investment now its basically usless is that what I'm hearing Matt? I was told y you guys at FS which are REALLY COOL that it would work no problem and that I would be able to record 1080i 24f in native QT. Now I just got the drive about 3 weeks ago and havent even had time to use it...would I be able to return it or get the FS-C which I wasnt even aware of. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Alex Leith · January 6th, 2007, 11:54 AM

The whole thing is nuts! What a way to make more money out of people.

I own Canon and Sony cameras. I take whichever one is the most suitable on the shoot. I want to move over to DTD recording, but now I find out I'll need to pay considerably more for a FS-C AND a FS-4Pro HD, and even then I'm probably not going to get Quicktime HDV compatability in 25p/f which is the mode I shoot in 99% of the time.

One word for Focus Enhancements - SIMPLIFY YOUR PRODUCT LINE!

Paul Chiappini · January 6th, 2007, 03:01 PM

I agee 100%. There should be, at most, only 3 products: DV, HDV and DVCPRO HD and even these could probably be rolled into one unit. I think that sometime this year FE will see some serious competition which will hopefully bring prices way down. I think the prices are artificially high right now.

Jay Fisk · January 6th, 2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Chiappini

I think the prices are artificially high right now.

After yesterday's announcement by of SanDisk's 32GB HD replacement, I'm going to wait on anything with moving parts.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070104-8555.html

The first integrator that makes this technology available in a universal and affordable package (think ONE model) will absolutely rule the market.

Free firmware upgrades for life!

Steve Benner · January 6th, 2007, 06:10 PM

I am going to say that I have been VERY Happy with Focus Enhancements. I did my research, and got the DR-HD100 for my JVC. No problems. Lets not forget that the HD drives all work in .m2t. It is only for .MOV, that Focus gets more specific.

Jourdan McClure · January 8th, 2007, 09:09 PM

steve thanks for the reminder..but for the price we payed for the firestore there should not be any needing to convert m2t to .mov . Its just unfortunate.

Larry Kamerman · January 17th, 2007, 12:01 PM

Matt, any update on the beta testing for version 2.1?

Steve Nunez · January 17th, 2007, 12:55 PM

Jay the confusion might be in that you see "Quicktime" as an option in DV mode- but not in HD mode- see if this is what is confusing you?

I have the same unit and it works with ANY flavor of HDV but produces M2T files that you'll need to transcode for NLE use (which sorta defeats the ease of DTE recorders in a big way)....as for me- I can't wait for the next generation of HD camcorders that will feature hard drives instead of tape!

Jay Rodriguez · January 17th, 2007, 06:38 PM

I think that's what's going on Steve. Sucks though, these units should record 1080i/24f in QT format by default imo.

I'm with you on the internal disks residing internally on the cameras. Can't wait to see that happen!

OH by the way, I found out through the company that they haven't even begun developing 2.1 that the whole beta testing thing was just talk internally. I'm sure someone will challenge this statement but it was emailed to me from a tech in response to my issues.

Doug Tessler · January 17th, 2007, 11:50 PM

I just got the beta yesterday so they are testing it and of course I am too.
Matt is a very nice person who frequents this board.

Doug Tessler

Jay Rodriguez · January 18th, 2007, 09:03 AM

lol, amazing. I can't believe how fragmented the information from that company is.

Matt McEwen · January 24th, 2007, 01:34 PM

Hi Jay...who told you this..."OH by the way, I found out through the company that they haven't even begun developing 2.1 that the whole beta testing thing was just talk internally. I'm sure someone will challenge this statement but it was emailed to me from a tech in response to my issues."

Thanks,
Matt

Matt McEwen · January 24th, 2007, 01:36 PM

...and by the way, Doug is correct, we do have 2.1 in beta test at the moment - has been for a few weeks. We will be looking for more beta testers shortly.

Thanks,

Matt

Larry Kamerman · January 24th, 2007, 01:40 PM

Matt-
the offer still stands . . . would be happy to be one of the testers.

January 4th, 2007, 01:08 AM	#16
Jay Fisk Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CSL BCS MX Posts: 67	Is this a true statement? The 2.1 upgrade for the FS-C (which is in beta now), will add the ability to record 1080i/24F/25F/30F as QuickTime HDV files which can be used instantly in FCP. Looking for beta testers?

January 6th, 2007, 11:54 AM	#18
Alex Leith Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Northampton, England Posts: 500	The whole thing is nuts! What a way to make more money out of people. I own Canon and Sony cameras. I take whichever one is the most suitable on the shoot. I want to move over to DTD recording, but now I find out I'll need to pay considerably more for a FS-C AND a FS-4Pro HD, and even then I'm probably not going to get Quicktime HDV compatability in 25p/f which is the mode I shoot in 99% of the time. One word for Focus Enhancements - SIMPLIFY YOUR PRODUCT LINE! __________________ Alex

January 17th, 2007, 12:01 PM	#23
Larry Kamerman Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York,NY Posts: 100	Matt, any update on the beta testing for version 2.1? __________________ www.gencofilms.com

January 17th, 2007, 12:55 PM	#24
Steve Nunez Trustee Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 1,418	Jay the confusion might be in that you see "Quicktime" as an option in DV mode- but not in HD mode- see if this is what is confusing you? I have the same unit and it works with ANY flavor of HDV but produces M2T files that you'll need to transcode for NLE use (which sorta defeats the ease of DTE recorders in a big way)....as for me- I can't wait for the next generation of HD camcorders that will feature hard drives instead of tape! __________________ Steve Nunez-New York City www.stevenunez.com

January 17th, 2007, 06:38 PM	#25
Jay Rodriguez Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 80	I think that's what's going on Steve. Sucks though, these units should record 1080i/24f in QT format by default imo. I'm with you on the internal disks residing internally on the cameras. Can't wait to see that happen! OH by the way, I found out through the company that they haven't even begun developing 2.1 that the whole beta testing thing was just talk internally. I'm sure someone will challenge this statement but it was emailed to me from a tech in response to my issues. __________________ . www.itchyhousefilms.com

January 4th, 2007, 09:50 PM	#17
Jourdan McClure Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Roseville, Ca Posts: 55	I too feel as if I have been mislead. since this device was supposed to be an investment now its basically usless is that what I'm hearing Matt? I was told y you guys at FS which are REALLY COOL that it would work no problem and that I would be able to record 1080i 24f in native QT. Now I just got the drive about 3 weeks ago and havent even had time to use it...would I be able to return it or get the FS-C which I wasnt even aware of. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

January 6th, 2007, 03:01 PM	#19
Paul Chiappini Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 89	I agee 100%. There should be, at most, only 3 products: DV, HDV and DVCPRO HD and even these could probably be rolled into one unit. I think that sometime this year FE will see some serious competition which will hopefully bring prices way down. I think the prices are artificially high right now.

January 6th, 2007, 06:10 PM	#21
Steve Benner Major Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: United States Posts: 590	I am going to say that I have been VERY Happy with Focus Enhancements. I did my research, and got the DR-HD100 for my JVC. No problems. Lets not forget that the HD drives all work in .m2t. It is only for .MOV, that Focus gets more specific.

January 8th, 2007, 09:09 PM	#22
Jourdan McClure Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Roseville, Ca Posts: 55	steve thanks for the reminder..but for the price we payed for the firestore there should not be any needing to convert m2t to .mov . Its just unfortunate.

January 17th, 2007, 11:50 PM	#26
Doug Tessler Major Player Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: BOCa raton fl Posts: 342	I challenge it go beta yesterday I just got the beta yesterday so they are testing it and of course I am too. Matt is a very nice person who frequents this board. Doug Tessler

January 18th, 2007, 09:03 AM	#27
Jay Rodriguez Regular Crew Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 80	lol, amazing. I can't believe how fragmented the information from that company is. __________________ . www.itchyhousefilms.com

January 24th, 2007, 01:34 PM	#28
Matt McEwen Focus Enhancements Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Campbell, CA. Posts: 508	Hi Jay...who told you this..."OH by the way, I found out through the company that they haven't even begun developing 2.1 that the whole beta testing thing was just talk internally. I'm sure someone will challenge this statement but it was emailed to me from a tech in response to my issues." Thanks, Matt

January 24th, 2007, 01:36 PM	#29
Matt McEwen Focus Enhancements Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Campbell, CA. Posts: 508	...and by the way, Doug is correct, we do have 2.1 in beta test at the moment - has been for a few weeks. We will be looking for more beta testers shortly. Thanks, Matt

January 24th, 2007, 01:40 PM	#30
Larry Kamerman Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New York,NY Posts: 100	Matt- the offer still stands . . . would be happy to be one of the testers. __________________ www.gencofilms.com