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Old August 27th, 2008, 06:50 PM   #1
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Making DVD in SD please answer about HD?!

I am going to create a DVD soon with a green screen, etc. I am trying to decide whether to buy the Sony HDR-SR11 or the Canon or the Vixia HV30 with the 24p option. Don't know much, but the question is SHOULD I RECORD IN SD OR CAN I RECORD IN HD AND JUST EDIT THE VIDEO, BURN TO DVD, AND IT WILL HAVE DOWNGRADED THE RESOLUTION ITSELF? What is the best way to do, and what camera is better?
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Old August 27th, 2008, 06:55 PM   #2
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Moved out of the Canon XH forum as this topic has nothing to do with the Canon XH series camcorders. Please do not "shout" by using ALL CAPS as that is very hard to read. Generally speaking, you'll get better looking SD video by recording in HD to begin with.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 07:03 PM   #3
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Not shouting, just using caps, making my question more readily read. Obviously, I don't know what I'm doing, I don't know how to post or where to post, but it's very likely many of you will see the DVD, so I'm in need of help.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 07:12 PM   #4
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Old August 27th, 2008, 08:01 PM   #5
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Please respond, I need help, lots of it, and I'll send you a free DVD of my crazieness...
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Old August 27th, 2008, 08:09 PM   #6
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Chris answered your question.... "Generally speaking, you'll get better looking SD video by recording in HD to begin with."

do you have more questions...
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Old August 27th, 2008, 09:01 PM   #7
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will it be just as easy to make a DVD which will play on DVD players or computers just as easy in HD? Or will I have to edit it to something else?
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Old August 27th, 2008, 10:13 PM   #8
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As Chris mentioned, that topic has probably been covered a number of times, but it basically boils down to what software you're using. I use Adobe CS3, which makes the HD-footage-to-SD-DVD transition quite easy if you're already familiar with Adobe Encore DVD. You just put your footage on the timeline and tell it what you quality you want out of it and it handles the transcoding. If you're looking for a cheaper solution, generally, any software worth its salt will handle the inputting of modern formats without a lot of complication (including HD formats). On the windows side, Vista now comes with "Windows DVD Maker," which makes the process quite painless, and I believe most Macs ship with iDVD on them which probably works even better. I therefore echo the sentiment that keeping your footage in HD through as much of the process is always best. Shooting, editing and rendering in HD and then authoring an SD DVD from your HD Cut will only give you better results. Hope this gives you a good starting point.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 10:53 PM   #9
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I believe you'll get better green screen results in HD than in SD Neither is outstanding, but HD shold be better.
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Old August 28th, 2008, 08:01 AM   #10
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Shawn: it sounds like you're trying to learn a lot on short notice, which is likely to get frustrating. As far as cameras are concerned the ones you mentioned are all decent and shooting in HD should yield better green screen results, but you'll need software which can handle the HD capture and editing and downsample to SD at the end. Picking the software will be more important than the camera, so start researching your software options. What's your budget for that?
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Old August 28th, 2008, 07:06 PM   #11
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Ok I just re-read your original question....

The easiest way for me to create a HD and SD DVD is as follows...

Use Cineform to injest your footage to your NLE.. work your magic editing
on the footage and output the footage to your hard drive...

then use DVDit HD pro... with this software you can write a HD and a SD DVD at the same
time...

Check out this tutorial and you will know exactly what you need to do... click on "Watch the Flash Demo" on the following site... and watch the whole thing :-)

Roxio DVDit Pro HD - DVD Authoring ? Overview
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Old August 30th, 2008, 04:13 PM   #12
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Thanks for everyones help. Kevin, I can afford any software. Money is not an issue. I would like to keep it tame, but it is not necessary.
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Old August 30th, 2008, 06:15 PM   #13
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Ditto what Alex said then: Adobe CS3 is a decent solution for editing in HD and downrezzing to SD for the final output.
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Old August 30th, 2008, 08:03 PM   #14
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Especially if you're using a PC. On the Mac side there's a lot of support for final cut pro and you can still get Adobe products to work with it. In my experience thus far, (and I'll probably get lynched for saying this) there's little functional difference between Final Cut Pro and Premiere Pro. Either solution does a great job.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 03:22 PM   #15
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Hi Shawn,

As others have said, it is better to source in HD - just wanted to share some reasons though.

HDV uses 4:2:0 color vs. 4:1:1 of DV. Some of the tapeless HD (non-HDV) cameras may even use 4:2:2 color, haven't kept up on consumer camcorder specs. The better color space, combined with 5x the resolution, will produce better green screen results with cleaner edges on the keyed subject

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