why does quicktime look so washed out at DVinfo.net

Jack Major · July 17th, 2007, 05:49 PM

the coloring is better on avi files and wmvs why is the image washed out on quicktime files? any way to fix this

Jack Major · July 18th, 2007, 02:42 AM

i guess no one knows

Glenn Chan · July 18th, 2007, 12:59 PM

Could be:

A- Quicktime applying color management inappropriately. Try using a different format, or the same format going out of AE as the one that came in.

B- Studio RGB versus computer RGB levels. You may need to convert from one to the other.

Bob Hart · July 18th, 2007, 01:11 PM

Some files which play soft and white on Quicktime play better on VideoLAN which is a free downloadable player.

Nathan Quattrini · July 18th, 2007, 03:52 PM

I know exactly what your talking about. When I export with QT h264 the image looks desaturated, but if i use mpeg4 it renders out nice and vibrant. I use tmpgenc for the encoding. Doesn`t make sense why h264 was so highly spoken of but clouds the image so. I wonder if i still have the comparison shots i did around on my comp somewhere. Never found an answer

Marco Wagner · July 18th, 2007, 06:47 PM

i Have the problem of AVI's from Premiere Pro 2.0 looking heavily pixelated on QT 7.2 on playback, but beautiful on WMP....

Glenn Chan · July 18th, 2007, 06:48 PM

Its quicktime applying color management inappropriately, from what I remember. Its a bug.

2- When playing back DV AVIs in quicktime, enable high quality. (crtl j or video settings)

Oliver Smith · July 19th, 2007, 08:04 PM

Hmmm I find the washed out appearance much more evident in wmv than in quicktime. The biggest reason I use H.264 codec for web applications is its great colour rendition compared to its bitrate/compression. Avi and Mpeg2 files are usually the best retainers of colour for computer video; but I've never had dramas with quicktime in Mpeg-4 or H.264. What editing software are you on?

Ervin Farkas · July 25th, 2007, 11:46 AM

With compression you loose some contrast, colors, pretty much a little of everything. Decent compression programs apply specific filters before encoding to highly compressed formats for the internet.

Try PREPARING your high quality footage BEFORE compressing - increase contrast, lower brightness, remove chroma noise.

Steven Thomas · July 26th, 2007, 08:00 AM

I've seen the same thing rendering quicktime (mov) from Sony Vegas.
I'll have to look closer when rendering, but maybe there's a setting for luminance set to 16-235 (601) as Glenn mentioned.

If there is, try disabling it and render again.

July 17th, 2007, 05:49 PM	#1
Jack Major Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Laguna Beach, California Posts: 61	why does quicktime look so washed out the coloring is better on avi files and wmvs why is the image washed out on quicktime files? any way to fix this __________________ Sony HVR-A1U, Azden SGM-1X, Bogen/Manfrotto 3001BN & 501 fluid head, Avid Xpress Pro HD, AE7

July 18th, 2007, 02:42 AM	#2
Jack Major Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Laguna Beach, California Posts: 61	i guess no one knows __________________ Sony HVR-A1U, Azden SGM-1X, Bogen/Manfrotto 3001BN & 501 fluid head, Avid Xpress Pro HD, AE7

July 18th, 2007, 03:52 PM	#5
Nathan Quattrini Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Warwick, Rhode Island Posts: 740	I know exactly what your talking about. When I export with QT h264 the image looks desaturated, but if i use mpeg4 it renders out nice and vibrant. I use tmpgenc for the encoding. Doesn`t make sense why h264 was so highly spoken of but clouds the image so. I wonder if i still have the comparison shots i did around on my comp somewhere. Never found an answer __________________ Cinematography Site

July 18th, 2007, 06:47 PM	#6
Marco Wagner Trustee Join Date: May 2005 Location: Saint Cloud, Florida Posts: 1,043	i Have the problem of AVI's from Premiere Pro 2.0 looking heavily pixelated on QT 7.2 on playback, but beautiful on WMP.... __________________ www.facebook.com/projectspecto

July 25th, 2007, 11:46 AM	#9
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	With compression you loose some contrast, colors, pretty much a little of everything. Decent compression programs apply specific filters before encoding to highly compressed formats for the internet. Try PREPARING your high quality footage BEFORE compressing - increase contrast, lower brightness, remove chroma noise. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

July 18th, 2007, 12:59 PM	#3
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Could be: A- Quicktime applying color management inappropriately. Try using a different format, or the same format going out of AE as the one that came in. B- Studio RGB versus computer RGB levels. You may need to convert from one to the other.

July 18th, 2007, 01:11 PM	#4
Bob Hart Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PERTH. W.A. AUSTRALIA. Posts: 4,476	Some files which play soft and white on Quicktime play better on VideoLAN which is a free downloadable player.

July 18th, 2007, 06:48 PM	#7
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	Its quicktime applying color management inappropriately, from what I remember. Its a bug. 2- When playing back DV AVIs in quicktime, enable high quality. (crtl j or video settings)

July 19th, 2007, 08:04 PM	#8
Oliver Smith Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 29	Hmmm I find the washed out appearance much more evident in wmv than in quicktime. The biggest reason I use H.264 codec for web applications is its great colour rendition compared to its bitrate/compression. Avi and Mpeg2 files are usually the best retainers of colour for computer video; but I've never had dramas with quicktime in Mpeg-4 or H.264. What editing software are you on?

July 26th, 2007, 08:00 AM	#10
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	I've seen the same thing rendering quicktime (mov) from Sony Vegas. I'll have to look closer when rendering, but maybe there's a setting for luminance set to 16-235 (601) as Glenn mentioned. If there is, try disabling it and render again.