HDcinema Pro - Mullen updates again

Paul Mogg · December 22nd, 2003, 09:07 AM

Maury,
None of the steps you outline require Steve Mullen's package to accomplish on the Mac, they can all be done using shareware or freeware tools that are readily available on the internet The only functionality within Steve Mullen's package that would require an original piece of software as far as I can tell, is the encoding to HD resolution MPEG2 from whatever is youir final output from FCP.
If what Paul says is correct, under the GNU license Mr. Mullen is obliged to give you the source code for MPEG2enc (which is someone else's code that he has changed and is now selling with his package for $350) The changes he made should be made freely available to the public. I think that people need to be aware that the majority of what they are buying is repackaged shareware or freeware. But to be fair, perhaps his guides and the MPEG2enc hack are worth $350 to achieve that functionality? Personally I'd rather wait for a solution from Lumiere or Apple, both of which are coming.

Christopher C. Murphy · December 22nd, 2003, 10:10 AM

He raised it again to $350??? He must be rolling in the dough...we should buy stock because at this rate by April's NAB he's going to be selling something that originally was $100 for $10,000 - I bet that's all profit! I want in!

Murph

Heath McKnight · December 23rd, 2003, 10:50 AM

If the new one works, then it works.

heath

Jeff Donald · December 23rd, 2003, 11:06 AM

This is not a discussion of marketing concepts. Please confine yourselves to technical discussions.

Heath McKnight · December 23rd, 2003, 02:03 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Jeff Donald : This is not a discussion of marketing concepts. Please confine yourselves to technical discussions. -->>>

I agree.

hwm

Lisa Lee · January 11th, 2004, 02:06 AM

Sadly enough I'm investigating other HD10 editing solutions, since we can't get the Aspect editing on premiere to work out.

So, I understand that some of you have not been able to get it to work...though some must have been sucessful with it. Just like any new software, some individuals will get it to work on their computers and for unforseeable reasons, some people will not. Just like some probably can get Aspect to work, it just doesn't work on our systems for some odd reason. (though the aspect solutions is far more than steves). Has anyone been successful with the HDCinema?? Most of the time the people who get it to work no longer post. If any number of people have been successful with this solution, please post and chime in, and I would willing risk some more money to get some editing out of this camera and we're at the point where we'd be willing to give steve's solution a shot....even if it is not a guarenteed success.

David Newman · January 12th, 2004, 11:11 AM

Lisa, I have replied to you on this topic here:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...5&pagenumber=2
You should have your editor download Aspect HD 1.1 to solve your issue.

December 22nd, 2003, 09:07 AM	#16
Paul Mogg Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: San Francisco CA Posts: 386	Maury, None of the steps you outline require Steve Mullen's package to accomplish on the Mac, they can all be done using shareware or freeware tools that are readily available on the internet The only functionality within Steve Mullen's package that would require an original piece of software as far as I can tell, is the encoding to HD resolution MPEG2 from whatever is youir final output from FCP. If what Paul says is correct, under the GNU license Mr. Mullen is obliged to give you the source code for MPEG2enc (which is someone else's code that he has changed and is now selling with his package for $350) The changes he made should be made freely available to the public. I think that people need to be aware that the majority of what they are buying is repackaged shareware or freeware. But to be fair, perhaps his guides and the MPEG2enc hack are worth $350 to achieve that functionality? Personally I'd rather wait for a solution from Lumiere or Apple, both of which are coming. __________________ Paul

December 22nd, 2003, 10:10 AM	#17
Christopher C. Murphy Trustee Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,707	He raised it again to $350??? He must be rolling in the dough...we should buy stock because at this rate by April's NAB he's going to be selling something that originally was $100 for $10,000 - I bet that's all profit! I want in! Murph __________________ Christopher C. Murphy Director, Producer, Writer

December 23rd, 2003, 10:50 AM	#18
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	If the new one works, then it works. heath __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

December 23rd, 2003, 11:06 AM	#19
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	This is not a discussion of marketing concepts. Please confine yourselves to technical discussions. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

December 23rd, 2003, 02:03 PM	#20
Heath McKnight MPS Digital Studios Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 8,531	<<<-- Originally posted by Jeff Donald : This is not a discussion of marketing concepts. Please confine yourselves to technical discussions. -->>> I agree. hwm __________________ My Final Cut Pro X blog

January 11th, 2004, 02:06 AM	#21
Lisa Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 86	Sadly enough I'm investigating other HD10 editing solutions, since we can't get the Aspect editing on premiere to work out. So, I understand that some of you have not been able to get it to work...though some must have been sucessful with it. Just like any new software, some individuals will get it to work on their computers and for unforseeable reasons, some people will not. Just like some probably can get Aspect to work, it just doesn't work on our systems for some odd reason. (though the aspect solutions is far more than steves). Has anyone been successful with the HDCinema?? Most of the time the people who get it to work no longer post. If any number of people have been successful with this solution, please post and chime in, and I would willing risk some more money to get some editing out of this camera and we're at the point where we'd be willing to give steve's solution a shot....even if it is not a guarenteed success.

January 12th, 2004, 11:11 AM	#22
David Newman CTO, CineForm Inc. Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cardiff-by-the-Sea, California Posts: 8,095	Lisa, I have replied to you on this topic here: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthrea...5&pagenumber=2 You should have your editor download Aspect HD 1.1 to solve your issue. __________________ David Newman -- web: www.gopro.com blog: cineform.blogspot.com -- twitter: twitter.com/David_Newman